Will Kronos Ever Receive A Sequencer Update?

kingy10kingy · Post by **kingy10kingy** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:22 pm

Any word on a possible sequencer update along the lines of the Krome?

apex · Post by **apex** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:22 pm

maybe NAMM? lol...

BasariStudios · Post by **BasariStudios** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:25 pm

Yes. Me and Apex are working on it now, in few days.

watermelon · Post by **watermelon** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:02 pm

If it's real,please do not forget to implement Midi Machine Control!!!
I really love to do it from my nanoKontrol2

cello · Post by **cello** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:06 pm

In a word, no.

It didn't happen for the OASYS and it won't happen for the Kronos.

ashboe · Post by **ashboe** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:30 pm

I would like to understand why kong don't just transport the m3 sequencer over to the Kronos?

GregC · Post by **GregC** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:33 pm

kingy10kingy wrote:Any word on a possible sequencer update along the lines of the Krome?

this has never been asked before.

The answer is No

dfahrner · Post by **dfahrner** » Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:05 am

ashboe wrote:I would like to understand why kong don't just transport the m3 sequencer over to the Kronos?

There are lots of reasons: the M3 sequencer runs on a completely different hardware / software platform, so it can't simply be moved into the Kronos - it would be a big engineering project to make it run on the new platform (and run without causing problems for anything else in the Kronos)...and even small changes to released, complex software (like the Kronos has) take company resources: time, engineering, testing, technical writing, etc, and the money to pay for everything...there has to be a return on investment: the resources spent have to be paid for by increased sales...Korg's limited resources are probably always tied up in future products...etc., etc...I wish I was wrong about this, I'd love to have the M3 / Krome sequencer in my Kronos...sigh...

df

Saxifraga · Post by **Saxifraga** » Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:33 am

dfahrner wrote:
ashboe wrote:I would like to understand why kong don't just transport the m3 sequencer over to the Kronos?
There are lots of reasons: the M3 sequencer runs on a completely different hardware / software platform, so it can't simply be moved into the Kronos - it would be a big engineering project to make it run on the new platform (and run without causing problems for anything else in the Kronos)...and even small changes to released, complex software (like the Kronos has) take company resources: time, engineering, testing, technical writing, etc, and the money to pay for everything...there has to be a return on investment: the resources spent have to be paid for by increased sales...Korg's limited resources are probably always tied up in future products...etc., etc...I wish I was wrong about this, I'd love to have the M3 / Krome sequencer in my Kronos...sigh...

df

I don´t think the first part of that reasons is valid. The " company resources: time, engineering, testing, technical writing, etc, and the money to pay for everything..." may be true. If you spend your time and capital on miniMS20 and such ... you may have nothing left to make your flagship workstation actually what you tell your customers.

The main point is: It´s not that difficult to merge those features because you have layers of software in an OS that unify the underlying hardware.
So only if you write assembler code (or C code) dedicated to a specific hardware you get into trouble. I think Korg has top level libraries and a HAL that can be compiled on any hardware they choose to support. (Like Microsoft and Apple do. btw. M3 seems to be linux based system too. Look on the files on your flash card.) They just deemed it not necessary for pro keyboarders. But there are still normal guys like me who drive down prices by also buying those stuff. But I will not complain anymore. I just don´t buy that stuff in the future anymore.

kingy10kingy · Post by **kingy10kingy** » Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:43 pm

Have a look at Studioblade gen3 , Overall the Kronos destroys it but it can have a full blown version of any DaW because its a computer as well. A Kronos with a full featured sequencer and touch screen would be mind blowing.

ashboe · Post by **ashboe** » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:08 pm

I thought that inside the Kronos there WAS a computer too?

kingy10kingy · Post by **kingy10kingy** » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:51 pm

Yes it is , I use the term computer loosely i.e you cant play movies on it , run cubase etc..

NuSkoolTone · Post by **NuSkoolTone** » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:54 pm

dfahrner wrote:
ashboe wrote:I would like to understand why kong don't just transport the m3 sequencer over to the Kronos?
There are lots of reasons: the M3 sequencer runs on a completely different hardware / software platform, so it can't simply be moved into the Kronos - it would be a big engineering project to make it run on the new platform (and run without causing problems for anything else in the Kronos)...and even small changes to released, complex software (like the Kronos has) take company resources: time, engineering, testing, technical writing, etc, and the money to pay for everything...there has to be a return on investment: the resources spent have to be paid for by increased sales...Korg's limited resources are probably always tied up in future products...etc., etc...I wish I was wrong about this, I'd love to have the M3 / Krome sequencer in my Kronos...sigh...

df

While the M3 is different hardware, I feel Saxifraga is right on this one. It's almost certain the code for Oasys/Kronos/M3 was done in a Integrated Development Environment and they all have different sets of hardware they can compile to. Yes I'm sure tweaks and testing would be needed, but for effectively one module of the project being ported it shouldn't be that bad. It really IS a matter of Korg deciding to spend the money to do it or not.

cello · Post by **cello** » Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:12 pm

NuSkoolTone wrote:It really IS a matter of Korg deciding to spend the money to do it or not.

Whilst in no position to contribute on technical matters, it strikes me that this is the point - and Korg have already decided not to.

kingy10kingy · Post by **kingy10kingy** » Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:02 pm

cello wrote:
NuSkoolTone wrote:It really IS a matter of Korg deciding to spend the money to do it or not.
Whilst in no position to contribute on technical matters, it strikes me that this is the point - and Korg have already decided not to.

and where did you hear that?

Korg Forums

Will Kronos Ever Receive A Sequencer Update?

Will Kronos Ever Receive A Sequencer Update?

Re: Will Kronos Ever Receive A Sequencer Update?