Transposing a specifc program only in setlist mode

[adzr85]

Cannot find a solution to this so hoping someone can.

I want to be able to transpose a specific program permanently within setlist mode, so that when I change from one slot to the next with my footswitch, that particular sound is transposed to the desired level. Then when I hit the footswitch again, the next sound is back to normal level (ie. not transposed). Hence, I am not interested in doing this via the global mode and having everything transposed. The sound I'm trying to transpose is a HD-1 sound (Pure Satin Bells).

Thanks.

[rs.felicio]

I'm using something like this, but by song mode. For example:

Song 1
Track 1 = Piano
Track 2 = Piano +12
Track 3 = Piano -12

On set list mode you can configure
Set List = Song 1
Slot 1 = Midi track 1
Slot 2 = Midi track 2
....
Slot 5 = Midi track 1

Using only the same PROG, I think it's not possible to do by set list.
I never tested it.....Maybe a way would be setup a switch button (like SW2 as the SGX-1) for the foot (the same CC)

[adzr85]

Thanks for the reply, but I don't really follow what you're saying. Can you please elaborate a bit more? What do you mean by slot 1 = midi track 1 and so on?

Thanks.

[tcornishmn]

Another way to do this is to assign a button on the surface to change the pitch of that program - press it and it changes the pitch, press it again, and it goes back. That way you can just have one sound with two modes.

I've done this on one of my patches (on my Oasys) so know it's possible, but haven't looked at it for a while.

[Dniss]

I would create a second program by copying the original one, and change the pitch (in Timber) in the 2nd program.

I would use both in the setlist and order them to suit my needs.

[rs.felicio]

adzr85,

First, set your song as you need

Track 1 = Instrument A
Track 2 = Instrument B
....

1 - Go to set list mode
2 - Touch to set "Slot 0"
3 - Press Edit.
4 - Change type to "song"
5 - Select your song
6 - Setup track 1 (related to the midi track 1)

2 - Touch to set "Slot 1"
3 - Press Edit.
4 - Change type to "song"
5 - Select your song
6 - Setup track 2 (related to the midi track 2)

After that when you touck "Slot 0" sounds will be instrument A, when you touch "Slot 1"will be instrument B...

[BillW]

I would create a second program by copying the original one, and change the pitch (in Timber) in the 2nd program.

I would use both in the setlist and order them to suit my needs.

This is the only correct answer. I have no idea what the others are talking about.

[rs.felicio]

Maybe my english is not being clear enough, sorry for that!!!

Of course create two, tree.....progs looks like the simplest way, but is not the only one.

Particularly I don't like to duplicate PROGs only to do simple adjustments (like transpose, EQ...), usually if I use the same program (in the same song) but with different settings.....

I prefer create a SONG (song mode, but no sequencer or midi eventos) and configure each track with my preference (Pitch, EQ, etc) and after use it on setlist as I described bellow

I hope I have been clearer now.

[Shakil]

Maybe my english is not being clear enough, sorry for that!!!

Of course create two, tree.....progs looks like the simplest way, but is not the only one.

Particularly I don't like to duplicate PROGs only to do simple adjustments (like transpose, EQ...), usually if I use the same program (in the same song) but with different settings.....

I prefer create a SONG (song mode, but no sequencer or midi eventos) and configure each track with my preference (Pitch, EQ, etc) and after use it on setlist as I described bellow

I hope I have been clearer now.

rs.felicio,

When you change the setlist, are you calling a different combi or Song?

Each combi and song saves it's own transpose settings for each track (regardless of the program selected), so you can just save the transpose in each combi/song and call them up with setlist. It should work without issues.

[tcornishmn]

I would create a second program by copying the original one, and change the pitch (in Timber) in the 2nd program.

I would use both in the setlist and order them to suit my needs.

This is the only correct answer. I have no idea what the others are talking about.

Um, no it's not. I can think of several ways to do this, depending on what's truly the end goal. If the only change is one parameter and you want to go back and forth, why make multiple steps for this when you can just assign a controller?

[Dniss]

Lots of good examples for the OP to choose from.

Let us know how it went.

[rs.felicio]

Hello Shaki,

My suggestion is use the same SONG (this option to change the track is not avaliable for combis)...Attached some prints using the Editor.

Just remember... the idea was not use the hands to change the sounds / buttons and my intentions was not duplicate PROGs

Well my intention was only help..as Dniss told "Lots of good examples"

https://www.dropbox.com/s/cex93ibqitwov0t/SL%20Mode.pdf

[tcornishmn]

I would create a second program by copying the original one, and change the pitch (in Timber) in the 2nd program.

I would use both in the setlist and order them to suit my needs.

This is the only correct answer. I have no idea what the others are talking about.

Um, no it's not. I can think of several ways to do this, depending on what's truly the end goal. If the only change is one parameter and you want to go back and forth, why make multiple steps for this when you can just assign a controller?

I looked up my patch. I have SW1 Mod assigned on the OSC1 Pitch page of my patch (and OSC2 if needed) under the Pitch EG section. AMS is set to SW1 Mod and intensity is set to +12.

With SW1 off the patch plays in the normal octave. Pressing SW1 raises the pitch 12 semitones.

[adzr85]

This is the only correct answer. I have no idea what the others are talking about.

Um, no it's not. I can think of several ways to do this, depending on what's truly the end goal. If the only change is one parameter and you want to go back and forth, why make multiple steps for this when you can just assign a controller?

I looked up my patch. I have SW1 Mod assigned on the OSC1 Pitch page of my patch (and OSC2 if needed) under the Pitch EG section. AMS is set to SW1 Mod and intensity is set to +12.

With SW1 off the patch plays in the normal octave. Pressing SW1 raises the pitch 12 semitones.

Thank you for the suggestions guys, much appreciated. Ideally I want to do what Dniss has suggested, but I don't know how to do that.

Switching the octave level by pressing the SW1 will not work well for me, because I am alternating the program as well (ie. I'm not merely altering the octave for the same program). Apologies, I should have been more specific in my original post.

This is what I want to do within a given Setlist:
Slot 1 - Electric piano (normal - no transpose)
Slot 2 - Pure satin bells HD-1 (transposed +12 semitones)
Slot 3 - Electric piano (normal - no transpose)
Slot 4 - Pure satin bells HD-1 (transposed +12 semitones)
Etc.

I alternate between the two about 15 times in quick succession, so this way I only have to flick through the slots with my footswitch and not have to worry about transposing the programs each time as well.

Despite looking through the Pure satin bells menus, I cannot find anywhere where I can transpose it.

Does anyone know where the transpose function is hidden amongst the plethora of menu options for that program? I've spent ages combing through it and looking through manuals and cannot find how to do this. Am I blind or just stupid!!??

[HardSync]

For HD-1 programs, go to the OSC/Pitch tab and OSC1 Basic sub-tab. At the top of the screen under the OSC1 Frequency heading, you can either edit the Octave setting or the Transpose setting. If the program uses 2 oscillators, then repeat the transposition setting on the OSC2 Basic sub-tab. This is described on pg 57 of the Parameter Guide.

It looks like this: