sampler with different effects on different samples?

charonme · Post by **charonme** » Fri May 03, 2013 12:18 pm

I'm looking for a sampler that could have different effects on different samples/tracks (or loops) at the same time and that could also modify some parameters of the effects live (using knobs or the pad or external midi controller). Can some of the kaoss products do this?

Bald Eagle · Post by **Bald Eagle** » Fri May 03, 2013 12:31 pm

You may want to check out the KP3 and the Kaoss Pad Quad.

chad9477 · Post by **chad9477** » Mon May 06, 2013 1:47 pm

I'm 100% certain the KP3 cannot do this and I'm fairly sure the Quad can't either, though I don't have one of those. The best the KP3 can manage is resampling a loop that has a given effect applied, then using another KP3 effect on top of it. In any case, whatever effect you're actively using is applied equally to all sounds coming out of the KP3, both from its audio inputs and all its samples. You can't pick and choose, unfortunately.

If you want hardware and it's within your price range, the Elektron Octatrack would be perfect for what you want to do.

neotechtonics · Post by **neotechtonics** » Mon May 06, 2013 2:40 pm

KP3 cant do it live. you can resample with FX onto the 4 loop banks but thats it.

Kaoss pad Quad cant do it either: has no sampling functionality.

first option I can think of thats CHEAPER than an octatrack: a laptop + software.

I don't know of any hardware loopers that are able to do this kind of stuff live except the octatrack.. other than having multiple separate loopers with dedicated FX units/pedals on their outputs.

so in theory the KP1/2/3 can do this but you will need more than one.

charonme · Post by **charonme** » Mon May 06, 2013 9:37 pm

that's what I was afraid of

so are there any parameters that can be changed individually for each sample or loop live on some of the devices you know (ideally the KP3)? at least the volume? what about a low pass cutoff frequency?

1_inch_punch · Post by **1_inch_punch** » Mon May 06, 2013 11:37 pm

i *think* an sp404 will let you apply a single effect to one or more samples of your choice - but it's not a live looper. works best with preloaded samples.

will the new boss unit do what you want?

xmlguy · Post by **xmlguy** » Mon May 06, 2013 11:54 pm

Maschine or Ableton Live 9 Studio with Push can easily do what you want.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fYzHRH ... r_embedded

charonme · Post by **charonme** » Tue May 07, 2013 6:47 am

I'd like to avoid using a PC/notebook if possible.

I don't need live sampling, I can preload my samples.

which new boss unit? sp404sx? I tried to find out, but I was told it can't do two different live effects at the same time. Or do you mean the RC300? I guess the rc300 probably could do it

charonme · Post by **charonme** » Tue May 07, 2013 8:21 am

chad9477 wrote:In any case, whatever effect you're actively using is applied equally to all sounds coming out of the KP3, both from its audio inputs and all its samples.

So the KP3 effects are applied only to the master out, I can't apply an effect to a loop or sample and leave the other samples/loop unaffected?

xmlguy · Post by **xmlguy** » Tue May 07, 2013 11:18 am

charonme wrote:I'd like to avoid using a PC/notebook if possible.

I don't need live sampling, I can preload my samples.

which new boss unit? sp404sx? I tried to find out, but I was told it can't do two different live effects at the same time. Or do you mean the RC300? I guess the rc300 probably could do it

I own an SP404. It doesn't do what you are asking. If you really want powerful sampling and effects, nothing compares to software. So you're giving up a lot just to avoid...what? With Live 9 and Push, you don't even have to have the PC/notebook open - it just becomes the sound module. The Push controller is basically a fully configurable sampler groovebox, and more. You get amazing synth power with Max for live.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xxWdvotAlo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS2r13xX-nk

Push is really a whole new kind of instrument. It's not a PC/notebook. It's not a sampler groove box. It's a new thing that has the power of the PC software, the features of a groovebox like step sequencing and pads, but with synthesis, sampling and effects to the full depth possible on a PC. It's a game changer.

Hugo · Post by **Hugo** » Tue May 07, 2013 1:51 pm

Yeah, I must say Push looks intersting. I was however, somewhat surprised at the price - seems a little high. But it's probably worth it, must check it out more in-depth

jiggityj · Post by **jiggityj** » Mon May 13, 2013 4:21 am

I have an MPC500 and you can have 2 effects at the same time. The effects aren't as great as the SP or Kaoss effects though.. With the 404 and KP3, you can resample with the effects though. Maybe the OP-1?