New Photo of Tyros 5

[karmathanever]

Thanks for the info..but I can't take it too seriously as there is no Google hit for any T5 specs...
"which Yamaha website?"

However, if true some of those "new" features seem quite interesting - humanisation etc...

So...
still no tempo lock button,
still no Bass Inversion button.....
still no FILL buttons
From PSRs700/s900/s710/s910/T1/T2/T3/T4 the AI-fingering does not work according to the manuals (Korg/Roland/Ketron AI works perfectly) - T5??? I am wondering but not hopeful.....
All the related manuals state:
"...AI FINGERED Basically the same as Fingered, with the exception that less than three notes can be played to indicate the chords......."
(Has never worked on any of these keyboards)
Have they added the ability to control SA functionality?
Have they included the ability for full control with FILLs?
76-key?
....etc....etc....etc....

Sadly looking like another Tyros...... is this perhaps a T4.1
Sorry for seeming always down on these but I used to love Yamaha arrangers back in the old days (pre-Korg) - I have spent a lot of money on Tyros and PSR s910 and am still so disappointed in their lack of "arranger" progress.
It would be great to have a true "Professional Arranger" competitor to Korg.

Still, I will wait and see.......

Just noticed that an Aussie dealer has just dropped his T4 price so much that it is now equal to the PA3X-76....

Pete

[usaraiya]

http://www.poubnews.com/yamaha-tyros-5- ... t-de-gamme

Here is another website with specs.

Uday

[karmathanever]

Hi all

Just spent 30 mins today talking to my acquaintance who has recently attended a full demo of the T5 by Peter Baartmans and also spent some time playing it.

He says that it revolutionises arrangers.
The thing he seemed most blown away by was the new "Ensemble" humanisation feature and I have to admit that I was very impressed just hearing about it!!!
He said the OS was much the same.
It features live audio drum loops in styles.
It is definitely going to be offered in 3 packages:-

• 61-note with speakers
  76-note
  76-note with speakers.

He believes price for 61 (incl speakers) will be much the same as T4 and that the 76 version (without speakers) will be the same as 61 version.
There is no touch screen - Baartmans is alleged to have said that Yam gave this a lot of thought and were convinced that this screen is better in comparison to other recent Yam keyboards with touch screen..
Basic OS and button functionality is much the same (total negative for me)
The keyboard control surface layout is the same.
His opinion of PA3X (which he also has) is that it is way too complex in comparison and now sits way behind the PA3X.

He believes that there is no comparison with T5 and PA3X - and says T5 is now so far advanced.

That's all I can tell you.
Expected to trickle through in December and 76 will be early next year.

Interesting but I am SO disappointed that they are sticking with the old OS and have not considered simple things like bass inversion and tempo lock.

It seems to me that Yam (T5) may have tried to carry on where Audya left off....

"Just another Tyros???"

Cheers

Pete

[karmathanever]

OK - Here you go......
Tyros 5 (demos including 76-note model....):-

http://youtu.be/vFyCjOSTR_c
http://youtu.be/6halMmSOujU
http://youtu.be/VUdSRnYSFlM
http://youtu.be/8SqcmgFll_4
http://youtu.be/05R6FtayxtI
http://youtu.be/lH12LWPDuwo
http://youtu.be/ea0rbMfYjrg

T4 vs T5:-
http://youtu.be/Ncn4CPaEjNA

(I'm even MORE proud of owning a Korg PA3X now....)

IMHO - still no comparison...

Have fun -

Pete

[Asena]

Already Played on it , Yes Some of NEW FX is awesome Super Reverbs, But overall, SAME AS T 4, thinner only
Some New Orchestral sounds and some New Dr Samples,
Gitar sounds are better whit the new FX on them. BUT SAME

I don,t like it,

Well we see what KORG can offer in future.

[Snowqueen]

I'm not sure what's really new with this? I was expecting more. Not sure what though! Is it a new model just for the sake of it? I have heard that you cannot carry your old T3 or T4 speakers over to the T5 as the connections are different. That might catch a few folks out. I prefer the tidy cable free system on the Pa3X, enough cords and rat tails on my floor as it is!
I'm sure it sounds pretty good, it should for that sort of money, but I'm not being swayed back to Yamaha at the moment.

[Veren]

Well if the human feel about the ensembles is the selling point THEN

all Korg needs to do is apply the same technology that resides in the Pa3X (like guitar mode's randomiser, and the vocal harmonizers settings to keep harmonies tight or out of sync a little for natural feel) to the ensemble and multiple voice (upper 1 2 3) selection options.....then sorted.

Cant wait for the next update ... OLD Korg Pa3x still beats NEW Tyros 5

I dont see anything else in there thats remarkably new!

T5 don't seem to interest me as i believe the 3X can do all and more.... once the update to allow more randomisation/humanized feel is released (in all aspects/functionality of the keyboard).

But it would be fair to await the full manuals/reviews etc to be most informed.

[Asena]

THIS IS A LATE APRIL JOKE FROM YAMAHA, nothing more.

I,m not DUMB, i stay whit Korg intill there is something that is better.

YAMAHA can change on Tyros, I found a great name YAMAHA History 5 ,

[karmathanever]

I must admit that I couldn't find anything that would entice me to buy it even if it was sensibly priced.

I don't know if you are like me, but often when I hear newly released arrangers, I hear some of the new styles and think WOW - but if I REALLY think about it, it is nothing but a few "changes" in styles I already have.

Tyros is still grossly over-DSP'd. They have truly gone to no expense in the build - I would imagine exactly the same casing as the previous models!!!!!!
Guitars did not impress me at all - I think Korg has the edge there.

I do however, like Yamaha drums sounds, but I can relieve my need for Yamaha drum sounds with my awesome Yamaha DTXtreme IIIs kit!!!
Great shame - had hoped this would be an "arranger industry" revolution.....

OK Korg - it's over to you now - and you have nothing to lose!!!

Pete

[Bachus]

I must admit that I couldn't find anything that would entice me to buy it even if it was sensibly priced.

I don't know if you are like me, but often when I hear newly released arrangers, I hear some of the new styles and think WOW - but if I REALLY think about it, it is nothing but a few "changes" in styles I already have.

Tyros is still grossly over-DSP'd. They have truly gone to no expense in the build - I would imagine exactly the same casing as the previous models!!!!!!
Guitars did not impress me at all - I think Korg has the edge there.

I do however, like Yamaha drums sounds, but I can relieve my need for Yamaha drum sounds with my awesome Yamaha DTXtreme IIIs kit!!!
Great shame - had hoped this would be an "arranger industry" revolution.....

OK Korg - it's over to you now - and you have nothing to lose!!!

Pete

Arrangers are never about revolution...
Both Tyros and the PA3X line take small steps...

In the whole hardware workstation and arranger keyboard Industry this century there only has been one major revolution, and that was the OASYS.

I think many of us are all wayting for the Oasys idea to stream intoo the next line of Korg arrangers. And if rumors are true, that might happen next year.

[karmathanever]

Arrangers are never about revolution...
Both Tyros and the PA3X line take small steps...

Agree to a point - Korg i-series was a revolution in arrangers.
i-series to PA1X+ was pretty huge too.
PA1X-PA3X - steps - the last one quite big
PSR8000 to Tyros 5 steps - the last one I am still trying to figure out

90's Roland e20+ was revolutionary.
Top arrangers like PSR6700 was the end of a chain...
i-series blew it all away...

So it has been and can still be revolutionary - maybe depends on your definition of revolutionary I guess.
We could change "revolutionary" to "ground-breaking" or "innovative".

Maybe PA4X will just be a "Tyros-like" update but you say you've heard rumours to the contrary??? Would like to know more about those rumours....
PA4X with CX3 engine and KARMA....and....

Pete

[Bachus]

Arrangers are never about revolution...
Both Tyros and the PA3X line take small steps...

Agree to a point - Korg i-series was a revolution in arrangers.
i-series to PA1X+ was pretty huge too.
PA1X-PA3X - steps - the last one quite big
PSR8000 to Tyros 5 steps - the last one I am still trying to figure out

90's Roland e20+ was revolutionary.
Top arrangers like PSR6700 was the end of a chain...
i-series blew it all away...

So it has been and can still be revolutionary - maybe depends on your definition of revolutionary I guess.
We could change "revolutionary" to "ground-breaking" or "innovative".

Maybe PA4X will just be a "Tyros-like" update but you say you've heard rumours to the contrary??? Would like to know more about those rumours....
PA4X with CX3 engine and KARMA....and....

Pete

i disagree with you about the i3, it wasreleased afew months after the GEM WX2 which was released early 1993.. Which was the first arranger that actually had a full blown synthesizer inside, 16 track sequencer and a modern lcd display.

But that was a true revolution back then

[karmathanever]

i disagree with you about the i3

Fair enough - never impressed with GEM quality from experience, so I probably would have easily ignored that model.
GEM also had shocking support here much like Ketron but I would have considered Ketron in preference.
I saw the i2/i3 as the first professional arranger - awesome configurability, strong tough build, great sounds, awesome styles (CV concept was outstanding), professional appearance (no speakers) etc... coming from a strong Yamaha and Roland background, this was revolutionary to me - "backing sequencer" was unique and awesome - pity Korg dropped it in the PA series!!! Stephen Kay's live demo videos sold me in about 2 minutes....

Hey, everyone to his own eh?

Assume you owned/played an i2/i3/i30?

Cheers

[Bachus]

i disagree with you about the i3

Fair enough - never impressed with GEM quality from experience, so I probably would have easily ignored that model.
GEM also had shocking support here much like Ketron but I would have considered Ketron in preference.
I saw the i2/i3 as the first professional arranger - awesome configurability, strong tough build, great sounds, awesome styles (CV concept was outstanding), professional appearance (no speakers) etc... coming from a strong Yamaha and Roland background, this was revolutionary to me - "backing sequencer" was unique and awesome - pity Korg dropped it in the PA series!!! Stephen Kay's live demo videos sold me in about 2 minutes....

Hey, everyone to his own eh?

Assume you owned/played an i2/i3/i30?

Cheers

Never owned an i3, but a friend of mine did, and we exchanged jeyboards once for a week, gem versus korg, both came pretty close when features where compared, just prefered the sound of the GEM more.. (It was extremely toughly build too)

[BillyHank]

If you want to hear a keyboard that will really surprise you with it's sound, just turn yours "OFF" for 2 weeks, don't listen to any others or any music.

When you turn on your keyboard after that two week rest, you will be amazed at just how good it really does sound.

I did this once because I was forced too by circumstances - that is when I stopped trading one Tyros for another.

Bill G