How to change a sound using SW1 and SW2

Figus · Post by **Figus** » Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:20 pm

Anybody could help me with this matter ?? I cannot find how to adjust SW1 and 2 to change a sound. E.g. i play piano and then by pressing sw1 i get brass. Is it somewhere in user manual ? It is so weird on Krome....I know that I need to set something in filter page, am I right ? I would appreciate all kind of help

Dan Stesco · Post by **Dan Stesco** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:51 am

Hello,
The simple way to switch sounds using SW in combi:
please check if the SW1 is set to SW1 mod CC#80 from the Controllers page

Rout the Timbre1 (piano for example ) to IFX1 and Tmbre2 (Brass for example) to IFX2.

Select for IFX1: St. Graphic 7EQ
Trim-0
wet/dry-wet, Src: SW1:#80 , Amt: -100

Select for IFX2; St. Graphic 7EQ
Trim-0
wet/dry-Dry, Src: SW1:#80 , Amt: +100

Now Sw1 will switch the Piano to Brass.

Dan Stesco · Post by **Dan Stesco** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:56 am

Hi again,

I read with more attention your post. If I understand do you need to know how your sound add the Brass using SW1 ?

Figus · Post by **Figus** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:23 am

Thank you so much ! Virtual beer goes to you

I wanted to know exactly how to switch sounds using SW, so you reply is very helpful and suitable. However , if you could explain how to add some sound using SW I would be grateful

Dan Stesco · Post by **Dan Stesco** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:42 am

Hi ,
Glad to meet you too.
Actually the sound don't change. The sound is already set on Timbre. The Sw working like a mute/unmute zone. Just identified the Brass and change it. Now your SW will work On/Off for new sound.

The SW working as a switch when it is set in Eq as I showed above, or
if the sound is rout on the Stereo Limiter with following settings:

Gain adjust:.... Src: Sw1: #80 Amt: -63
The sound play when the SW1 is off.

How to add the sound:

Piano and Strings added by the SW.

Set the Timbre 1 and 2 to Gch from TIMBRE PARAM P3
choose the Piano for Timbre1 and strings for Timbre2

Rout the Piano on L/R and strings on IFX1
set the Stereo Limiter to IFX 1 and looking on Gain Adjust DB line.
On the right side will see SRC (choose SW1) and Amt (amount) set -63.
When SW1 is on, will play the Piano.
When SW1 is off the Strings will be add.

Figus · Post by **Figus** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:13 am

I'm going to try these all in a minute. But, how do you know that ? Are you "Advanced Korg user" or is it hidden somewhere in the manual ? I'm confused while reading the operation guide and then changing to the parameter guide - it is more than 500 pages. To be honest, I'm a Roland user for a long time and Korg is weird and complicated to me.

Thank you for your help

Dan Stesco · Post by **Dan Stesco** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:50 am

Is not in the manual. Stay connected to the forum. I will explain you more:)

billbaker · Post by **billbaker** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:22 pm

It is in the manual... kinda... but it is assumed that you know what some of the IFX are capable of doing.

Messing around with your stereo's EQ most folks set their controllers in one direction only -- above 0 dB.

But you can also go below and that; cutting all the frequencies equals zero output.

In the solution Dan (and yes, he is an expert) showed the "push" of all the sliders down to negative 100 happens all in one step with a push of a button.

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Expertise is largely a matter of use and of pushing your personal envelope. You've got access to experienced help here, including access to other newbies who sometimes have a fresh take on what is possible because they're coming from other makers (like Roland) who have implemented some cool function ideas that Korg users might not be aware of.

You have to know that some of those functions are along the lines of "here let me do that for you... you'll just mess it up if I let you do it yourself". If you're not used to it suddenly having a large amount of very detailed control can be intimidating. No one is holding your hand... but no one is holding you back either.

Example, no carved-in-stone presets. You can erase your entire machine with a Korg. Not so, Yamaha and Roland, you'll always have several banks of sounds no matter how much you wish you could overwrite or tweak them permanently (you should hear Korg guys complain about not being able to overwrite the GM bank!). Korg allows you the freedom to screw up in spectacular fashion, and succeed to the same degree.

Think of it this way -- you fly a plane (Roland) every day and it's always on auto pilot with few choices but maxim ease of use and one day you get a new plane (Korg) with no auto-pilot but which can go faster, higher, and further than your last one. You might miss the days when you could fly without thinking, but your performance without autopilot has a lot more to offer.

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jefersomusic · Post by **jefersomusic** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:35 am

Dan is stesco information is extremely valuable! If you want to add more effects have to follow the same pattern?

billbaker · Post by **billbaker** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:31 pm

Adding effects is usually done at the insert effects (IFX) page.

You have a large number of effects to chose from. You should, over time, become familiar with what they do and how their boundaries can be pushed (as with the EQ as volume control).

There are, I think, two primary things to keep in mind.

First, no effects work until they are routed - you have to have signal going in before you hear the effect coming out -- you'll need to figure out how that works for both insert effects and master effects.

And, second, when you move a program into a combi, you will lose all of the associated insert effects; for programs that depend heavily on effects this loss can cause drastic changes in the sound -- "my great distortion guitar program sounds like a banjo when I put it in a combi".

You have to work on understanding not only what has happened and how to restore it, but how to set it up to conserve the effects you ultimately decide to use (what's truly necessary), and how to be creative with routing to make the effects from one sound work for many others (how effect order [chain] impacts usefulness with other sounds).

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Figus · Post by **Figus** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:44 pm

So, my lord - how to restore it ?

As I know, there's an option "copy from program" in the menu where we can tick what we want to copy ( IFX, MFX etc ) does it always work ? Once I copied settings from programs into my three combi timbres and the effect was proper, but sometimes I lose reverb or chorus....

billbaker · Post by **billbaker** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:39 pm

Thats the way… but you need to restore your routing for each sound once it's effects have been copied. This is because the IFX for any but the first sound will be in different locations -- i.e., sound 1 uses IFX 1-2-3, sound 2 IFX 4-5 (where it had been 1-2) , sound 3 IFX 6-7-8 (where it had been 1-2-3). Each of those will be a short and independent chain of FX.

So what about sound 4 ?!? It needs to be routed to one of those existing IFX chains. or sent directly to the Master Effects (MFX).

But it doesn't necessarily need to go into all three of the FX in chain 1, for example, it could be inserted to use just the second or third in the series.

This is where it becomes important to know what, precisely, each sound's minimum needs are and whether you can get close with a similar or partial chain that is different than the full "copy from" effects.

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