Pet Peeve with the Kronos 61 - NO OCTAVE button

Francois · Post by **Francois** » Wed Sep 11, 2013 12:48 pm

Sometimes, I think synth manufacturers lose track of the simplest things to concentrate on the advanced functions.

I can see the need for an Octave selection on smaller keyboards, like 25, 49 and 61 keys. Not so much on a 73 or 88.

However, Transpose +/- buttons are almost essential on keyboards that purport to be used on stage ! Not everybody can start playing a tune in any key requested.

GregC · Post by **GregC** » Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:42 pm

Francois wrote:Sometimes, I think synth manufacturers lose track of the simplest things to concentrate on the advanced functions.

I can see the need for an Octave selection on smaller keyboards, like 25, 49 and 61 keys. Not so much on a 73 or 88.

However, Transpose +/- buttons are almost essential on keyboards that purport to be used on stage ! Not everybody can start playing a tune in any key requested.

thought I read a post where SW1/SW2 could be used for pitch/octave

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:53 pm

GregC wrote:thought I read a post where SW1/SW2 could be used for pitch/octave

On a patch-by-patch basis.

Besides this thread, various solutions are also referenced at:

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... hp?t=84037

Gambler wrote:Since we're stuck with the current hardware, the suggestion of binding some existing buttons to those functions makes perfect sense.

In theory, one of the great things about a touchscreen is that you're not stuck with the existing hardware buttons, in terms of what's available to you to implement enhancements. I think someone mentioned, it could be a nice idea to put octave/key transpose buttons on the bottom of the Set List Mode screen. There is space between the Play/Edit soft buttons on the left and the Control Surface button on the right; or immediately above that, next to the buttons that navigate forward and back through pages of the Set List.

Though what I really want them to put there are direct access buttons to each page of the Set List. If you're looking at Slots 1-16, and you need to go to Slots 65-80, you have to hit the page-forward button four times. What Yamaha does with their equivalent (Master mode) is provide A-H buttons for direct access to the 8 banks of 16 slots. Soft buttons like that on the bottom of the Set List page would be very helpful. Even better if you could custom name those soft buttons.

Between the two "rows" of space at the bottom of the Set List screen, they could probably manage to put the page navigation AND the Octave/Transpose buttons.

GregC · Post by **GregC** » Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:58 pm

Scott wrote:
GregC wrote:thought I read a post where SW1/SW2 could be used for pitch/octave
On a patch-by-patch basis.

Besides this thread, various solutions are also referenced at:

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very good ideas.

to be clear and to speak " Korg ", patch= Program

phly23 · Post by **phly23** » Sat May 17, 2014 9:12 pm

Its ridiculous...theres empty space at the bottom of the program and cpmbi main screen for OCTAVE - and OCTAVE +
I will not program every sound for this basic function nor give up my sw1 and sw2! CMON KORG! Add it!! The kronos 61 is the only semi weighted model and with out this function it is incomplete. Does ANYONe agree?

GregC · Post by **GregC** » Sat May 17, 2014 11:42 pm

phly23 wrote:Its ridiculous...theres empty space at the bottom of the program and cpmbi main screen for OCTAVE - and OCTAVE +
I will not program every sound for this basic function nor give up my sw1 and sw2! CMON KORG! Add it!! The kronos 61 is the only semi weighted model and with out this function it is incomplete. Does ANYONe agree?

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GregC · Post by **GregC** » Sun May 18, 2014 12:09 am

GregC wrote:
phly23 wrote:Its ridiculous...theres empty space at the bottom of the program and cpmbi main screen for OCTAVE - and OCTAVE +
I will not program every sound for this basic function nor give up my sw1 and sw2! CMON KORG! Add it!! The kronos 61 is the only semi weighted model and with out this function it is incomplete. Does ANYONe agree?
in program mode, play, press EXI1 tab or button. there's your octave box on the right hand side.

If u don't mind being in combi mode, The numerical pad can be used for -12, -24, etc, etc under the pitch tab

danatkorg · Post by **danatkorg** » Sun May 18, 2014 1:19 am

You can use external MIDI or USB MIDI controllers to do this via the Global P2-3:Function Assign page.

Bertotti · Post by **Bertotti** » Sun May 18, 2014 2:04 am

Thanks Dan a good use for a couple more pads on the QuNexus!

phly23 · Post by **phly23** » Sun May 18, 2014 8:31 pm

danatkorg wrote:You can use external MIDI or USB MIDI controllers to do this via the Global P2-3:Function Assign page.

Thanks I will look into midi controllers that would be light and portable. Perhaps the nano-Still though,
All I want for Christmas is the functionality of a "soft button" octave control on the main program and combi screen on my 61 key Kronos so I can have a basic capability that will enable more creativity and expression!
And I promise not to use this beloved forum to be a squeaky wheel!!! just sayin!

phly23 · Post by **phly23** » Tue Oct 07, 2014 9:33 pm

Octave Up/Down" Soft" key, please?
this is getting ridiculous!
And no. Global transpose is NOT a solution....Just sayin'
Thanks Korg please?!?

nowtime · Post by **nowtime** » Tue Oct 07, 2014 11:00 pm

+ 10000

Stratario · Post by **Stratario** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 3:27 am

Hello Korg. I would like to have "soft" octave up/down key as well. Thanks for listening.

bsbsantos · Post by **bsbsantos** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:13 pm

Dedicated OCTAVE - / OCTAVE + buttons would be nice. But Kronos does not have them and I don't care that much and can live with this.

I don't believe you would use them for every program.
The only programs I needed them so far are pianos. And this function is already there, on the SW1 and SW2.

I only play live. So I prepare all my timbres in advance. And, If I needed this feature in an specific timbre, I would program it. No big deal.

Davd C. Polich · Post by **Davd C. Polich** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 4:07 pm

Well, until there is a "soft switch" on the display for octave up/down (I wouldn't hold my breath for that, by the way), the only practical solution is to assign SW1 and SW2 hardware switches to octave down and octave up in the Controllers page for either program or combo. That's what I do
on my Kronos X61. And the only sounds I really need to do this for are
pianos, electric pianos, and clavs.