Korg Kross Logic Pro X

[pinkorgkross]

I am very new to the kross and logic pro x. With that said, when I record using the kross on logic, I can play back and hear through my headphones (which are connected to the kross). However, whenever I unplug the USB (connecting the kross to my mac), no sound is heard on playback. Am I missing something (I think another audio interface is needed to connect but I am very iffy on this...)? Can somebody explain in simple terms? Thank you!

[pinkorgkross]

I also realize I just posted this in the wrong forum...sigh.

[Sam CA]

I assume you've recorded midi tracks in Logic.

If so, why would you want to disconnect the cable that makes the two talk to each other?

[pinkorgkross]

I assume you've recorded midi tracks in Logic.

If so, why would you want to disconnect the cable that makes the two talk to each other?

I want to disconnect, because I want to edit the tracks I've already recorded in a different place. It would be very inconvenient to take my 88-key Korg, headphones, and mac, when everything I need is already on my mac, I just can't hear it.

So main reasons for disconnecting are for portability although I am also concerned I will do all this editing (listening through the Korg), finish, and won't be able to hear my final product off the mac. Just want to figure this out before I put all the work in.

[Diego5150]

An audio interface would solve all your issues that you are having. You could have audio, midi and monitoring all in one device. When you purchase one be sure to do the following:
1) Make sure it is compatible with your apple computer.

2) Think of the future regarding outputs. What I mean is when I bought my 1st interface I though that (2) inputs would be enough, but when I wanted to add a microphone, then another keyboard I did not have enough inputs because the 2 inputs I had were my left & right for my Kronos.

Good luck. Let me know if you have any further questions.

[pinkorgkross]

An audio interface would solve all your issues that you are having. You could have audio, midi and monitoring all in one device. When you purchase one be sure to do the following:
1) Make sure it is compatible with your apple computer.

2) Think of the future regarding outputs. What I mean is when I bought my 1st interface I though that (2) inputs would be enough, but when I wanted to add a microphone, then another keyboard I did not have enough inputs because the 2 inputs I had were my left & right for my Kronos.

Good luck. Let me know if you have any further questions.

Thanks Diego5150! Does that mean there is absolutely no way for me to hear the recordings through my mac unless I buy an audio interface? (it seems with recording there is always another piece of equipment to buy...;()

Regarding inputs, I am currently using my korg kross as an interface for my AKG414 condenser mic...if i DO buy an audio interface, would just having inputs for the korg be fine (as the mic is connected to the korg itself)?

****For clarification, I am currently using a USB connector to the USB B port to record from Korg to Logic Pro x****

[Sam CA]

I assume you've recorded midi tracks in Logic.

If so, why would you want to disconnect the cable that makes the two talk to each other?

I want to disconnect, because I want to edit the tracks I've already recorded in a different place. It would be very inconvenient to take my 88-key Korg, headphones, and mac, when everything I need is already on my mac, I just can't hear it.

So main reasons for disconnecting are for portability although I am also concerned I will do all this editing (listening through the Korg), finish, and won't be able to hear my final product off the mac. Just want to figure this out before I put all the work in.

Are you talking MIDI or AUDIO here? What are you exactly running in Logic? Midi tracks or audio tracks?

If it's Audio, you no longer have to be connected to the keyboard. You can just monitor the mix through laptop headphone jack.

If it's midi, then you have to be connected to a physical sound module/keyboard. You can also use some kind of soft sample library to lisen to what you're recorded, but it won't be anything like listening to Kross. That means, you'll only be able to do limited editing if your final arrangement is going to be based on Kross Sounds.

I'm sure you're aware of the fact that midi doesn't have any sound of its own.

Maybe I misunderstood your question...

[ed_f]

You really shouldn't need to get anything.
You might want to check out this video I did, should be very similar even though this is using the Kronos.

http://youtu.be/AcC3X_uvnUQ

[pinkorgkross]

Thanks for the video @ed_f Unfortunately, my Korg does not show up as an option in the audio screen like it does in the video, only the midi page. I suspect that is my problem. It seems that @Diego5150 is right and the only way for me to get audio from my Korg is if I purchase an audio interface. Sigh...I didn't want to spend any more money...

@AssyrianPianist Right now, my set up is headphones into the Korg which connects to my laptop via USB cable. When I record on logic, I believe it is only recording MIDI data. So the only way I can hear what I've recorded is when I listen to my headphones connected to the Korg. I can't hear the audio on my laptop by itself because MIDI data can't be heard...I was trying to figure a way to record the actual audio along with MIDI data using the USB cable but I guess this isn't possible and I NEED to buy audio interface to make it work? Hopefully that makes more sense.

I guess technically I could record sounds on Korg first using my SD card and import them into logic, but I'd much rather do it directly into the program if there is a way without purchasing additional equipment.

[pinkorgkross]

I assume you've recorded midi tracks in Logic.

If so, why would you want to disconnect the cable that makes the two talk to each other?

I want to disconnect, because I want to edit the tracks I've already recorded in a different place. It would be very inconvenient to take my 88-key Korg, headphones, and mac, when everything I need is already on my mac, I just can't hear it.

So main reasons for disconnecting are for portability although I am also concerned I will do all this editing (listening through the Korg), finish, and won't be able to hear my final product off the mac. Just want to figure this out before I put all the work in.

Are you talking MIDI or AUDIO here? What are you exactly running in Logic? Midi tracks or audio tracks?

If it's Audio, you no longer have to be connected to the keyboard. You can just monitor the mix through laptop headphone jack.

If it's midi, then you have to be connected to a physical sound module/keyboard. You can also use some kind of soft sample library to lisen to what you're recorded, but it won't be anything like listening to Kross. That means, you'll only be able to do limited editing if your final arrangement is going to be based on Kross Sounds.

I'm sure you're aware of the fact that midi doesn't have any sound of its own.

Maybe I misunderstood your question...

OHHH I see what you're saying. I can use logic pro sounds to play the midi tracks, but if I want to use the korg sounds then I need to buy an audio interface and record the audio? Which route to people generally take when creating music? I'm assuming editing an actual audio track will be more difficult than editing midi...

[Sam CA]

OHHH I see what you're saying. I can use logic pro sounds to play the midi tracks, but if I want to use the korg sounds then I need to buy an audio interface and record the audio? Which route to people generally take when creating music? I'm assuming editing an actual audio track will be more difficult than editing midi...

In a nut shell, Yes!

If all you have is some midi tracks inside logic, you MUST be connected to something that provides the audio for those midi tracks. In your case, you send midi from Logic to Kross and in turn keyboard generates audio based on the recorded midi tracks coming from Logic. You can NOT break that connection.

The only way to hear something in Logic (without a sound module) is for you to use logic sounds. Just assign some fairly comparable sounds to your track and go from there. This way you can keep editing and working on your midi track. Eventually when you're back to your studio, you can finish polishing the arrangement with your actual Kross sounds. ( if that's the plan of course).

If you record individual audio tracks in Logic:
Let's say this is a string quartet session. You'll end up with 4 string audio tracks. You'll be able to listen to your tracks however, you will only be able to edit audio. For example, you can no longer change the melody or harmony. (Unless you're an advanced audio editor and there are some limited options to make some changes to audio material)

If you just want to work on the arrangement itself.....lets say if you want to add melodic/harmonic ideas...then I would keep everything in midi and use some Logic sounds to expand the composition.

Eventually, you're gonna need at least a 2 channel audio interface. There are many threads for this subject.

[pinkorgkross]

If all you have is some midi tracks inside logic, you MUST be connected to something that provides the audio for those midi tracks. In your case, you send midi from Logic to Kross and in turn keyboard generates audio based on the recorded midi tracks coming from Logic. You can NOT break that connection.

The only way to hear something in Logic (without a sound module) is for you to use logic sounds. Just assign some fairly comparable sounds to your track and go from there. This way you can keep editing and working on your midi track. Eventually when you're back to your studio, you can finish polishing the arrangement with your actual Kross sounds. ( if that's the plan of course).

Thanks for your help!! But ultimately, if I "polish the arrangement with actual Kross sounds" and I plan to use these sounds in my final product, I will need to purchase an audio interface?...-.- Better start saving...!!

[Sam CA]

Thanks for your help!! But ultimately, if I "polish the arrangement with actual Kross sounds" and I plan to use these sounds in my final product, I will need to purchase an audio interface?...-.- Better start saving...!!

That's right! I wouldn't do it any other way. I'm sure you'll be able to find something that is right for you. There's so many budget/consumer level brands to choose from...

This would be a good starting point to do a research for the hardware gears in general:

http://www.gearslutz.com

[william olson]

I very much appreciated pinkorgkross,s post.It was a thread kind of like apples vs oranges ( midi or audio). This has been also my dilemma.I want to thank the members for sorting out thru this thread what is what.I am interested in recording korgs amazing sounds into Logic pro x or even Garage Band.So do i have this right.1/4 inch cables out of korg audio out put slots(1 2 3 4) to inter face. USB from inter face to Mac (logic pro x). Do i need drivers from korg to be installed into Mac.(imac).Walla is every thing now simply auto matic.I have a feeling there is more thue.Be fore i make a move to try some thing i study the hell out of what i am about to try.I know Ed has some great videos But right now just trying to get this hard ware thing to be accurate .Thanks

[ed_f]

I very much appreciated pinkorgkross,s post.It was a thread kind of like apples vs oranges ( midi or audio). This has been also my dilemma.I want to thank the members for sorting out thru this thread what is what.I am interested in recording korgs amazing sounds into Logic pro x or even Garage Band.So do i have this right.1/4 inch cables out of korg audio out put slots(1 2 3 4) to inter face. USB from inter face to Mac (logic pro x). Do i need drivers from korg to be installed into Mac.(imac).Walla is every thing now simply auto matic.I have a feeling there is more thue.Be fore i make a move to try some thing i study the hell out of what i am about to try.I know Ed has some great videos But right now just trying to get this hard ware thing to be accurate .Thanks

When you say Korg are you talking a Kronos or a Kross?