I have posted this before will post again NOISE build up

Night Spirit · Post by **Night Spirit** » Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:51 pm

I made a thread about this a long time ago and got no answers. But the new piece I am writing is causing this to happen even more now. This happens the most when you are plugged direct in with headphones. Go test this out see what you get please. Turn volume up all the way, hold your damper down and just start mashing away at the keys. Can be cords rolls arpeggios or just a bunch of randoms smashing away at the keys. Just keep smashing away start from the bottom of the keys go all the way to the top. After you smashed enough keys do NOT take foot off damper and listen to the sounds fade away and this NASTY HISSING noise in the back round that increase in volume as the sounds of the piano fades away. This white noise will not go away until you release the damper, and YES I have played with my damper settings/resonance decay all the typical settings to see if I can make this stop happening.

So if anyone is aware of this and has a fix, or any idea how to stop it I will be greatly appreciated. One of the pieces I am working on goes into a mental abuse of sounds before letting it taper off into a very gentle suttle climb back up into madness. And during the process where I am letting the notes ring out and get quieter that dam hissing pops up ruins my track and is really starting to bug me greatly.

Any help would be very appreciated.

Rigel · Post by **Rigel** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 12:43 am

I've never noticed the noise until now. I checked it myself, and it's there just as you describe. I assume that we're talking about SGX1 pianos, and by the way, no need to smash the keys, a few sequential chords will do

That noise is "damper resonance". In the Exi 1 'components' find damper resonance and lower the db value as you like, the hiss will be zero. Hope this helps.Cheers.

Night Spirit · Post by **Night Spirit** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 5:27 pm

Ahh thank you, I had mine set to -10db and I just put it at -45 DB and it got quiet enough to where I am satisfied. I can still hear the FAINTEST of hiss but at least I can finish this piece I am working on. Thanks again I am just guessing my original Kornos run a bit hotter than the X oh well thx again

danatkorg · Post by **danatkorg** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:23 pm

Night Spirit wrote:I am just guessing my original Kornos run a bit hotter than the X

Nope.

Night Spirit · Post by **Night Spirit** » Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:13 pm

well it's still doing it, seams to come and go every time I turn off and back on the kronos. Some time I can set it to -20 db and the lasting noise goes away. Others have it set to -45db and its still there. So there has to be something else that is causing this in the kronos. Anyone else test this out and getting same results and have more info on wtf is going on?

danatkorg · Post by **danatkorg** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 6:08 pm

I’m pretty certain that your Kronos is working properly.
SGX-1 damper resonance level will vary according to the Damper Resonance settings, the selected Piano Type, and how the SGX-1 is played.
I use the SGX-1 all the time in a critical listening environment, and have never had a problem with the damper resonance.
Real acoustic pianos make this sound - but if it doesn’t suit your taste, just turn it off entirely by using the Damper Resonance check-box.

Rigel · Post by **Rigel** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 9:49 pm

...and after changing the damper resonance setting, dont forget to 'write' (save) the program.

ahutnick · Post by **ahutnick** » Fri Jul 04, 2014 5:11 am

By any chance did you chance did you check that the input gain knobs on the back of the Kronos are turned down all the way as they will cause noise if they are turned up even without anything plugged in to the inputs.

Night Spirit · Post by **Night Spirit** » Mon Jul 07, 2014 4:48 pm

No I did not check the input gain, but that has never caused any additional noises, as far as I am aware. And I only use the German Grand with the settings saved. And each time I play the hiss will either be louder or quieter when letting notes ring out. I can't figure it out but it keeps doing it. I will get an audio sample tonight for ya guys.

ahutnick · Post by **ahutnick** » Mon Jul 07, 2014 7:39 pm

The reason I mentioned the input gain knob was over a year ago or so I was hearing a lot of random hissing and noise in my Kronos and couldn't figure out what was causing it so I posted about this on the forum and somebody here suggested checking the input gain knob and make sure they were down all the way and I saw they were up so I turned them down all the way which solved the noise issue for me. If you are only getting noise in the Pianos and not in any other sounds then the input gain knob is not the problem

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:32 pm

ahutnick wrote:The reason I mentioned the input gain knob was over a year ago or so I was hearing a lot of random hissing and noise in my Kronos and couldn't figure out what was causing it so I posted about this on the forum and somebody here suggested checking the input gain knob and make sure they were down all the way and I saw they were up so I turned them down all the way which solved the noise issue for me. If you are only getting noise in the Pianos and not in any other sounds then the input gain knob is not the problem

This can cause a problem if you've set up in global, combi, or patch to route the audio inputs to the outputs. Especially if you have anything extreme like compressor, distortion, etc. in the TFX.