Sostenuto?

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Sostenuto?

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Beginner here. I am wondering if I can set one of the pedal inputs to perform the Sostenuto function. I see that Sostenuto in only mentioned in the MIDI section of the manual, but that means the Kross is capable of the Sostenuto function. Then how do I use the Sostenuto function? Is it possible to somehow map that MIDI command to one of the pedal inputs?

OK, it's easy for you guys to tell me I don't need the function, let's get beyond that, thanks.
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This is all hypothetical....

IF sostenuto (as opposed to sustain) is, indeed, a MIDI function, and

IF that MIDI function has a Continuous Controller Number (CC#) associated with it, and

IF you can assign that (or any) CC# to the assignable foot switch under global (Sostenuto should be a momentary on/off control),

then

You could conceivably add sostenuto to the Kross using a (secondary) foot switch assigned to control the Sostenuto CC#.



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... OR ...

If the conditions of adding sostenuto CANNOT be met directly in the KROSS, but ARE available to you using a more full function MIDI Controller, you could add sostenuto control generated by a pedal plugged into a secondary board and assigned to the proper CC#, tun sent to the KROSS using MIDI IN.


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billbaker wrote:This is all hypothetical....

IF sostenuto (as opposed to sustain) is, indeed, a MIDI function, and

IF that MIDI function has a Continuous Controller Number (CC#) associated with it, and

IF you can assign that (or any) CC# to the assignable foot switch under global (Sostenuto should be a momentary on/off control),

then

You could conceivably add sostenuto to the Kross using a (secondary) foot switch assigned to control the Sostenuto CC#.



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Do you have any first hand knowledge of working with the Kross?
Here is the MIDI Implementation chart:
(OOps, please inform on how to insert an image onto messages in this forum)
Anyway the Control Change # in MIDI is listed as #66 with a note of *C
which says"*P, *A, *C, *E: Transmitted/received when Global G-MIDI FILTER page (Program Change, Aftertouch, Control Change, Exclusive) is Enable, respectively".

What do you guys think?
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Post by billbaker »

Not Kross directly, but I'm MIDI conversant; my current gear's in my signature.

Per the information you've provided there are conditions of your Global MIDI filter that need to be enabled to receive a sostenuto message (CC# 66).

I don't know if that CC# can be programmed for the assignable pedal. That's an RTFM issue - you need to check that part of Kross' manual.

If it can be assigned, then it is a just a matter of plugging in the pedal and each time you step on it you'd get sostenuto.

[For those that don't know, sostenuto is a selected sustain on played notes that does not effect following notes played, so you could play a C chord, press sostenuto and then improvise over the held chord as if dampers were lifted only for the C chord].

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In addition to internal and midi-linked pass thru control from a second keyboard, there's a third option of using a midi pedal board, which can be programmed to send any CC# message using, usually, 8 to 12 assignable momentary (on/off) switches and a sweepable wah-type pedal for variable values between 0 and 127.



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Midi Sostenudo

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billbaker wrote:.


In addition to internal and midi-linked pass thru control from a second keyboard, there's a third option of using a midi pedal board, which can be programmed to send any CC# message using, usually, 8 to 12 assignable momentary (on/off) switches and a sweepable wah-type pedal for variable values between 0 and 127.



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I'm kind of new to MIDI, and I had not thought of using a MIDI pedal setup. Thanks for the assist -- I cannot see any reason why that would not work.
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Sostenuto -- is a YES on the Kross!

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Korg Support got back to me and said that Sostenuto IS an option among the choices in the menu for Pedal input. I wish Korg had all the menu choices listed In their Manuals!!!!
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