'jupiter 8' sounds for Kronos

[Davd C. Polich]

You can easily get Jupiter-8 style sounds using the AL-1. Start with setting the filter to the 12db low-pass.

Personally, I think there's nothing more lame than trying to do vintage
analog synth sounds using samples. Especially when you have THREE virtual analogue synths inside the Kronos (AL-1, MS-20, and Polysix).

I see your point my friend, but it would not be like i sample pads and strings, but the raw oscillators and i really believe that the jupiter 8 has its own character.

in your opinion it looks like kronos can replace all analogs in the world.
which is ofcourse not true. Every synthesizer has its character and as good as kronos is it will not replace a moog, jupiter , prophet.

Where did I say the Kronos can "replace all the analogs in the world"?

Of course all vintage analog synths had their own character. But here's the thing - a sample is like a dead body. No matter how many things you do to modulate it or filter it, it will always be a static "snapshot".
A virtual analog synth does not use samples, therefore, you will always have the advantage of two things - the sound will never be static and dead-sounding, and you won't be accessing hundreds of megabytes of sample data to make a sound.

The AL-1 engine has many features that allow you to mimic the sound of many different vintage synthesizers. Different filters, the amp drive
(which allows you to "saturate" and overdrive the oscillator, and thereby making Moog and Prophet, as well as Oberheim and Roland - type timbres possible), plus the Kronos full compliment of effects - all of these make creating vintage analog synth sounds easy and entirely possible. The only thing you need to have is a good memory of the way these synths sounded…or, if you're fortunate, the actual synths themselves sitting there in your studio.

But if you're that much of a diehard "must have the real thing" guy, then go ahead, sample your Jupiter 8 or whatever. Good luck with sampling a Jupiter 8 and chopping/looping/mapping the
waveforms into your Kronos. But you know what - it will still not sound exactly like a Jupiter 8. It will sound like samples of a Jupiter 8 coming out of the Kronos outputs.

[manuriga]

This is also the reason why i ask if there would be interest
I never had the main to insult you in any way.

First of all i never said i would make a "jupiter 8 " copy for Kronos.
in the end you put piano samples in the kronos too...?
or other acoustic samples?
I believe strongly that a piano sample is harder then an artifical sound.

[orangefunk]

I quite enjoyed using the analogue wav samples in the normal PCM engine… some nice Oberheim Matrix 12 waveforms in there IIRC.

I have an Oberheim Matrix 12 and can say there is nothing quite like the real thing but to have those waveforms was a nice discovery..

.. not to get into an argument.. but the VA stuff of the MS20 and AL1 never did much for me… I know from experience of the MS20 Legacy software that it is capable of some great sounds (esp when used with the Polysix) but I guess I just don't gel with it…