Kilko's Hands-On Korg Electribe 2 Thread [English, No Jap!]

robosardine · Post by **robosardine** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 1:52 pm

hoolak wrote:Can you make the electribe sound like a TB-303? I want to hear it do acid! So jealous of you.

I can tell you- no you can't.

Spheric El · Post by **Spheric El** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 2:34 pm

hoolak wrote:
Can you make the electribe sound like a TB-303? I want to hear it do acid! So jealous of you.

I can tell you- no you can't.
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Not even "like" a 303?
Could you detail more (IYO) why?

Ted3000 · Post by **Ted3000** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 2:42 pm

16 looping steps of saw or square with slide, accent and envelope control (and motion sequencing to get closer to the accent behavior) plus a resonant filter actually modeled on the 303 and dedicated knobs for stuff like cutoff, and it can't sound like a 303? Not even a little like a 303?

The EMX-1 could do decent acid. I don't see why the new electribe can't be programmed to give something like the Aira TB-3 a run for the money.

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roblabs · Post by **roblabs** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 4:48 pm

Spheric El wrote:hoolak wrote:
Can you make the electribe sound like a TB-303? I want to hear it do acid! So jealous of you.

I can tell you- no you can't.
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Not even "like" a 303?
Could you detail more (IYO) why?

I think he means the sound quality. The filter, resonance, etc. Its the same with the Volca Bass. You can do acid on it for sure, but don't compare it to the 303.

So wait...Ted, its confirmed the new electribe has a slide function now?

robosardine · Post by **robosardine** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 5:12 pm

Ted3000 wrote:16 looping steps of saw or square with slide, accent and envelope control (and motion sequencing to get closer to the accent behavior) plus a resonant filter actually modeled on the 303 and dedicated knobs for stuff like cutoff, and it can't sound like a 303? Not even a little like a 303?

The EMX-1 could do decent acid. I don't see why the new electribe can't be programmed to give something like the Aira TB-3 a run for the money.

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By doing decent acid you would be emulating what Phuture - DJ Pierre & Spanky brought to us with their TB-303. The TB-303 is an analogue machine and has unique sound characteristics because of this. The new electribe is a digital affair and will not be able to reproduce this sound. Most of the features you mention are available on many grooveboxes. If the EMX has been able to get close- I have yet to hear it- perhaps if someone can produce a link that would be helpful?

Roland has spent a lot of time and money producing their new 'ACB'- Analogue Circuit Behavior- technology- (which the electribe does not posess) for their Aria (TB-3) line. This has proved to be an incredible breakthrough- as many people in the industry admit that they would struggle to tell the difference- and the real deal sells for £1000+.

I am 100% confident that the new electribe is not going to wipe out many future sales of the TB-3 (as would be the case if it was up to the job)- If the electribe was able to produce anything like that sound- Korg would be trumpeting all about it.
Roland will not be worried about this in the slightest.

My TB-3 is the last piece of equipment I would be without- It is quite amazing and a bargain at the price they sell for. In fact to be honest- I have an electribe on pre order- and getting rid of my TB-3 at any stage has never even crossed my mind.

Run for it's money? not a chance. In The TB-303 Acid Challenge- the electribe would be munching a clump of grass at the starting gate as the TB-3 is majestically speeding past the finish line.

If you like acid- you need to try one.

Ted3000 · Post by **Ted3000** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 5:24 pm

roblabs wrote:So wait...Ted, its confirmed the new electribe has a slide function now?

The EMX did. The new electribe can too.

When you overlap 2 notes in a step sequence (first note has a length longer than 1 step) then the 2 notes are triggered legato - one long note. If the second note has a different pitch and the Glide knob is turned up past a certain point, the legato triggering will also slide the pitch up or down to the second note's value.

With the right amount of glide, you get a 303-style slide.

The accent on the 303 is different than the electribe accent. Electribe is only volume, whereas the 303 also did a cutoff/resonance thing which made it bark. But clever programming and motion sequencing can reproduce it.

The accuracy of the Acid filter model will be the most important element.

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Ted3000 · Post by **Ted3000** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 5:45 pm

robosardine wrote: The TB-303 is an analogue machine and has unique sound characteristics because of this. The new electribe is a digital affair and will not be able to reproduce this sound. Most of the features you mention are available on many grooveboxes.

The TB-3 sounds awesome and authentic to my ears - but analog purists do have issues with it.

I agree that many grooveboxes don't come close to the analog 303 sound. But most of them have had generic digital lowpass filters that were not models, and some of the filters were not even great lowpasses.

The EMX could do acidy stuff, but the character of the sound was quite different than a 303. The resonance bit into the bass response, it was too self-oscillating at high res, it didn't have that pronounced analog chirp.

I've never played a King Korg but if the acid filter is really a decent model of a 303 and not a generic attempt, AND you can get a good sequence programmed with slides and motion-seq accenting... you might get 90% of the way to the TB-3 sound, which itself is about 95% of the way to the TB-303 sound.

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hoolak · Post by **hoolak** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 6:11 pm

Might have to invest in a TB-3. Does anyone know if there is are 808 and 909-esque kits on the new electribe. Wonder if they are sybth created or rompler type sounds? Or do I need to add a TR-8 to my list? Sorry for the slight topic derailment. Maybe we should start a thread called electribe v acid?

Kilko · Post by **Kilko** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 6:20 pm

I'm gonna post a sample from an acid pattern preset a little later today. This way you can decide yourself how well you think Electribe does acid

Aciiiiiiid!

hoolak · Post by **hoolak** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 6:26 pm

Ac-ac-aciiiiiiiiieeeeed! Nice one. Some 808 sounds too if possible. So jealous.

jimmyfontana · Post by **jimmyfontana** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 6:58 pm

Kilko - How many parameters can you edit on the ifx and mfx?

Kilko · Post by **Kilko** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 9:14 pm

Here's the ACID preset I promised (with a little improvisation)

http://www33.zippyshare.com/v/58804174/file.html

hoolak · Post by **hoolak** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 9:31 pm

Kilko wrote:Here's the ACID preset I promised (with a little improvisation)

http://www33.zippyshare.com/v/58804174/file.html

Thanks. Sounds acidic to me. Cool.

DrHoo · Post by **DrHoo** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 10:24 pm

Can't really knock that. Sounds good to me & i'm way past giving a s**t weather acid sounds the same as a 303. It's the tribe acid version, thanks for your efforts.

robosardine · Post by **robosardine** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 11:14 pm

hoolak wrote:Can you make the electribe sound like a TB-303? I want to hear it do acid! So jealous of you.

This was the question- and the answer (thank you once more Kilko for putting it up)- as evidenced by it and as previously stated is a resounding - no, it can't.

ps Dr I hope you and your s**t are getting on well together.... being a doctor I'm sure you will be aware- you don't want to be holding on to these things for too long. I am also a doctor and have written you a prescription- as a professional courtesy- for one TB-3 to be taken immediately.... that ought to shift it for you by the morning

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