Though I really want a PA 900, my PA 80 still sounds pretty good. This was done with vocal through the keyboard using acoustic guitar layered with AIR CLOUDS synth pad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp4svBa ... UPQFHR1V0x
https://app.box.com/s/32fzcvu8wxlto8qqruk7
ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL SONGS EVER WRITTEN!
Saving For A PA900
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Saving For A PA900
God Bless,
Don
Don
Thank you my friend! So it would definitely be a mistake to trade in my PA 80 on a PA 900? The 900 wasn't available when I first considered adding to my PA 80. I had rented a PA 800 and liked the built in harmony but the cost of that keyboard, even used, was too much. Thought Yamaha PSR S950 would give me what I wanted but Yamaha's vocal processor/harmonizer made me gag. I ended up using my external Digitech input into the stereo mini AUX IN on the back of a PSR S750 and I'm pretty happy.Leedslad wrote:Don, I also have a PA 80,and a PA900, sound wise I think the 80 has the edge, also I think the styles are a lot better, unfortunately the 900 has the technology. I would also add that I think the 80 is better built. The piano sounds on the 80 are awesome.
Just my 10cents worth.
Problem is I recorded an album's worth of original songs when I had the 800 and the PA 900 has a lot of the styles and sounds from the 800. I also like that the 900 can record MP3 to USB and can playback MP3s. My keyboard only does .wav in both circumstances. I think the 900 would be a good compliment to my PSR S 750. Just the cost that holds me back. My wife already thinks I have too many toys.
Here's one of the songs I recorded with the PA 800. I'd really like to have this and many of the other styles that I enjoyed while I had the 800 rented.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHgUfF9 ... alFMFBwXSA
God Bless,
Don
God Bless,
Don
Don
Don, you sound great on anything, but I must say I LOVE my PA900. I previously had a PA3X and it was great too. This one comes close, and is a lot easier to move around every night.
If something like a PA4X comes out and I like it so much I can't pass it up, I'll make you a deal you can't refuse on the 900!
I've found it is easier to just buy something then wait until my wife gets over it, than it is to get permission up front.
DonM
If something like a PA4X comes out and I like it so much I can't pass it up, I'll make you a deal you can't refuse on the 900!
I've found it is easier to just buy something then wait until my wife gets over it, than it is to get permission up front.
DonM
I agree with Don.
I have researched a new keyboard for 3 - 4 months and finally was torn between the Pa900 and the Yamaha PSR-S950. I was leaning a little more towards the Pa900. I finally tried something with my family and friends. A couple of my friends even play in a local band. I played them the comparison video from the internet. Video was 13 minutes long. They of course couldn't see the video only hear the music. They did not know which instrument played at any given time. 5 out of 5 poeple said that the voices from the korg were more crisper and warmer than the Yamaha. As far as the styles concern, the same. Drums outstanding from the korg. That finaly convinced me. And of course the features it has, value for the dollar, unbeatable.
However, I do understand that everybody's perception is different.
Remember, it is always easier to ask for forgiveness than for permission.
I have researched a new keyboard for 3 - 4 months and finally was torn between the Pa900 and the Yamaha PSR-S950. I was leaning a little more towards the Pa900. I finally tried something with my family and friends. A couple of my friends even play in a local band. I played them the comparison video from the internet. Video was 13 minutes long. They of course couldn't see the video only hear the music. They did not know which instrument played at any given time. 5 out of 5 poeple said that the voices from the korg were more crisper and warmer than the Yamaha. As far as the styles concern, the same. Drums outstanding from the korg. That finaly convinced me. And of course the features it has, value for the dollar, unbeatable.
However, I do understand that everybody's perception is different.
Remember, it is always easier to ask for forgiveness than for permission.
The only stupid questions are the questions that have not been asked.
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GEM SX3, PA900
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GEM SX3, PA900
I had more or less the same experience. I owned both the PSR S950 and Korg at the same time and used both of them on different jobs for a couple of months, sort of alternating them with no real pattern.
I record all my jobs on a digital recorder running straight from my mixer, so the recorded sound is exactly what I'm playing for the audience.
I had recordings from several consecutive nights on the Tascam DR 5 and I was listening through headphones. I was listening to a Yamaha night and thinking "that sounds pretty good". Then as the songs from that night ended and the songs from the next night, where I used the Korg, began, I could only say "Wow, that's like night and day." Drums are more realistic, styles more life-like, vocal processing and harmonizer miles better.
I must admit I miss some of the great electric guitar sounds from the Yamaha, but I've been able to address that by doing some editing of factory sounds and finding some third-party sounds on the internet.
On top of all that, the Korg Songbook really blows away Yamaha's Music Finder. And of course, the Chord Sequencer is another great feature on PA900. If they would only let us SAVE the created sequences to Songbook and have them load automatically!!
One area where Yamaha is ahead is allowing instant access to styles or files from USB device. Why, oh why does Korg make us load everything in order to audition it?
DonM
I record all my jobs on a digital recorder running straight from my mixer, so the recorded sound is exactly what I'm playing for the audience.
I had recordings from several consecutive nights on the Tascam DR 5 and I was listening through headphones. I was listening to a Yamaha night and thinking "that sounds pretty good". Then as the songs from that night ended and the songs from the next night, where I used the Korg, began, I could only say "Wow, that's like night and day." Drums are more realistic, styles more life-like, vocal processing and harmonizer miles better.
I must admit I miss some of the great electric guitar sounds from the Yamaha, but I've been able to address that by doing some editing of factory sounds and finding some third-party sounds on the internet.
On top of all that, the Korg Songbook really blows away Yamaha's Music Finder. And of course, the Chord Sequencer is another great feature on PA900. If they would only let us SAVE the created sequences to Songbook and have them load automatically!!
One area where Yamaha is ahead is allowing instant access to styles or files from USB device. Why, oh why does Korg make us load everything in order to audition it?
DonM
While we are at it, Don, another great deature for the Korg would be loading in an section into the pad directly. Let's say a 10 second audio file. Like the yamaha 950 can do, from what I understand.
The only stupid questions are the questions that have not been asked.
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GEM SX3, PA900
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GEM SX3, PA900
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Dikikeys
Currently, the Chord Sequence feature is a bit of a toss-up between Roland and Korg.
Yes, the Roland allows you to save the CS, but you can't edit it or Link it to a Performance. So using it is a two step procedure (call up the Performance, then go hunt for the CSQ file). Far more inconvenient than it needs to be.
But Korg fixed the bug where transposing the keyboard did NOT transpose the CS, Roland have so far refused to address this. This makes the feature a bit less useful, as many, many songs benefit from having the last iteration of the head taken up a 1/2 or whole tone. Not to mention, if you want a CSQ file in different keys, you have to MAKE them in different keys!
There's still room for improvement for both arrangers for this feature...
The option to record JUST the chords, or chords and fill and variation changes would be useful (Roland used to have this, no more
), some way of editing the CSQ file would be great (mess one change or timing up, you have to start all over again), options to either return to the start of the CSQ or continue from the next bar if paused would be handy, and the ability to record different CSQ's and chose them on the fly from the screen would be amazing!
Don't let them rest on their laurels... There's MUCH that could be improved in this great feature!
Yes, the Roland allows you to save the CS, but you can't edit it or Link it to a Performance. So using it is a two step procedure (call up the Performance, then go hunt for the CSQ file). Far more inconvenient than it needs to be.
But Korg fixed the bug where transposing the keyboard did NOT transpose the CS, Roland have so far refused to address this. This makes the feature a bit less useful, as many, many songs benefit from having the last iteration of the head taken up a 1/2 or whole tone. Not to mention, if you want a CSQ file in different keys, you have to MAKE them in different keys!
There's still room for improvement for both arrangers for this feature...
The option to record JUST the chords, or chords and fill and variation changes would be useful (Roland used to have this, no more
), some way of editing the CSQ file would be great (mess one change or timing up, you have to start all over again), options to either return to the start of the CSQ or continue from the next bar if paused would be handy, and the ability to record different CSQ's and chose them on the fly from the screen would be amazing!Don't let them rest on their laurels... There's MUCH that could be improved in this great feature!
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Dikikeys
And yes, I'm hoping the next generation of Korg's does away with this 20th century tyranny of having to load things FIRST before they can be used.
Roland's read audio files, loops, styles, SMF's, basically EVERYTHING directly from the USB stick. No loading waits, no muss, no fuss. Buy yourself a 64GB stick, and you have a virtually unlimited amount of room for everything you need.
Sure, I can see loading GB sized sample sets as something you might need a larger SSD for, but other than that, a 64GB stick is all you need. It also has the benefit that ALL personal data is in one place. If I stick my USB stick in someone else's BK-9, it is INSTANTLY my BK-9!
Korg's could benefit enormously from adopting this kind of system...
And the ability to realtime pitch and timestretch audio files would be again catching up with the rest of the pack. Rather than the half-hearted time slice and control sequence way of playing loops at other speeds than nominal that Korg use, other arrangers and WS's simply timestretch and pitch shift the entire loop. This would make using audio loops MUCH easier than it currently is in Korg's.
Here's hoping the New Year brings these amazing capabilities to you all!
Roland's read audio files, loops, styles, SMF's, basically EVERYTHING directly from the USB stick. No loading waits, no muss, no fuss. Buy yourself a 64GB stick, and you have a virtually unlimited amount of room for everything you need.
Sure, I can see loading GB sized sample sets as something you might need a larger SSD for, but other than that, a 64GB stick is all you need. It also has the benefit that ALL personal data is in one place. If I stick my USB stick in someone else's BK-9, it is INSTANTLY my BK-9!
Korg's could benefit enormously from adopting this kind of system...
And the ability to realtime pitch and timestretch audio files would be again catching up with the rest of the pack. Rather than the half-hearted time slice and control sequence way of playing loops at other speeds than nominal that Korg use, other arrangers and WS's simply timestretch and pitch shift the entire loop. This would make using audio loops MUCH easier than it currently is in Korg's.
Here's hoping the New Year brings these amazing capabilities to you all!