Kilko's Hands-On Korg Electribe 2 Thread [English, No Jap!]

[Glitchcraft]

I was watching the Mistabishi demo again earlier & it was sounding good enough to convince me the thing is useful. That fx tail-cut off issue is a bitch really & i used to get it with the esx1 too but i normally had a work around prepared. Am i right in assuming that it only does that when you switch to a different pattern, not when it loops the same one over & over ? What if you program two patterns with the same fx settings for those parts, does it still have the same issue ?

Yes it does. You can copy one part to another and when you change it sounds bad.

[Hugo]

I was watching the Mistabishi demo again earlier & it was sounding good enough to convince me the thing is useful. That fx tail-cut off issue is a bitch really & i used to get it with the esx1 too but i normally had a work around prepared. Am i right in assuming that it only does that when you switch to a different pattern, not when it loops the same one over & over ? What if you program two patterns with the same fx settings for those parts, does it still have the same issue ?

Yes it does. You can copy one part to another and when you change it sounds bad.

But in looping the same pattern, it doesn't glitch, right?

[DrHoo]

I was watching the Mistabishi demo again earlier & it was sounding good enough to convince me the thing is useful. That fx tail-cut off issue is a bitch really & i used to get it with the esx1 too but i normally had a work around prepared. Am i right in assuming that it only does that when you switch to a different pattern, not when it loops the same one over & over ? What if you program two patterns with the same fx settings for those parts, does it still have the same issue ?

Yes it does. You can copy one part to another and when you change it sounds bad.

Even if the same fx parameters on the same part number are set on the second pattern ?

There's a positive thought anyway... With 16 parts each capable of any sound you want there's more than enough for variation within the same pattern. I often used to work in song mode on the esx but with the same pattern looped right through. I did use multiple patterns for some stuff like an intro or a breakdown but mostly just the one pattern. With this new machine at least there's more scope for keyboard parts. I figure you can get a full sound with 10 parts including drums, percs, ambience, bass & lead, that still leaves 6 parts for variations of choice without the need to change pattern... I suppose !

[Re-Member]

I was watching the Mistabishi demo again earlier & it was sounding good enough to convince me the thing is useful. That fx tail-cut off issue is a bitch really & i used to get it with the esx1 too but i normally had a work around prepared. Am i right in assuming that it only does that when you switch to a different pattern, not when it loops the same one over & over ? What if you program two patterns with the same fx settings for those parts, does it still have the same issue ?

Yes it does. You can copy one part to another and when you change it sounds bad.

In another post, you mentioned that the Insert FXs get cut off switching between patterns, but not the Master FXs. Could you please clarify this? The Master FXs include Reverb and additional Delays which function separately than what's available for the Insert FXs.

Also, you mentioned that each part receives MIDI IN on different channels... could you please check if the Event Recorder can record notes received from MIDI IN?

[SMK]

Kilko-

Can you do us a solid and test out these glitch concerns people are asking about. It seems you have had a very positive experience with this gear where as Glitchcraft has not.

Hugo and DrHoo have asked some really good questions and I would like to hear your answers based on your experiments and your experience with the new tribe:

Am i right in assuming that it only does that [Glitch] when you switch to a different pattern, not when it loops the same one over & over ? What if you program two patterns with the same fx settings for those parts, does it still have the same issue ?

But in looping the same pattern, it doesn't glitch, right?

Is the glitch with insert effects on your Electribe as bad as Glitchcraft is experiencing?

Please address this for me and the rest of us, so we can put this issue to bed.

Thanks Kilko.

[SMK]

There's a positive thought anyway... With 16 parts each capable of any sound you want there's more than enough for variation within the same pattern. With this new machine at least there's more scope for keyboard parts. I figure you can get a full sound with 10 parts including drums, percs, ambience, bass & lead, that still leaves 6 parts for variations of choice without the need to change pattern... I suppose !

That's exactly what I was thinking! You are so right on the money, DrHoo.

As long as nothing glitches within the same pattern, we're good!

[DrHoo]

On the esx i used, a work-around in song mode was to motion sequence the fx parameter immidietely on pattern number change.

Like this... It's in song mode, looping pattern 3 for about 8 cycles & then it changes to pattern 7 ok. As the pattern changes the parameter of the same programmed efffect automatically reverts to the pattern 7 setting but... if you stop the machine & ready the recording from one previous pattern cycle before the change & get the fx knob about two clicks away from where you want it in advance & then when it changes pattern you instantly motion sequence to the same setting.... Worked for me.

I know we don't have song mode on this noob but we still have pattern change so what's the difference ?

[Kilko]

Kilko-

Can you do us a solid and test out these glitch concerns people are asking about. It seems you have had a very positive experience with this gear where as Glitchcraft has not.

Hugo and DrHoo have asked some really good questions and I would like to hear your answers based on your experiments and your experience with the new tribe:

Am i right in assuming that it only does that [Glitch] when you switch to a different pattern, not when it loops the same one over & over ? What if you program two patterns with the same fx settings for those parts, does it still have the same issue ?

But in looping the same pattern, it doesn't glitch, right?

Is the glitch with insert effects on your Electribe as bad as Glitchcraft is experiencing?

Please address this for me and the rest of us, so we can put this issue to bed.

Thanks Kilko.

First of all, the "glitch" is an FX-cutoff. Now you know.

DroHoo: Looping the same pattern doesn´t glitch. Transitioning to another pattern does. It doesn´t matter if the both have the same FX-settings, the "glitch" (FX-cutoff) will still be there.
Hugo: Looping the same pattern doesn´t glitch (no FX-Cutoff).

Here´s a video where I show all of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p74Xig ... e=youtu.be

[DrHoo]

Thanks Kilko. I have to admit, on your video i can't really hear anything detremental to the change. OK it's there but doesn't sound too bad to me as it goes.

Hey, here's another question. Do we still get the little indicator to show us the original value of a parameter ? Always thought that was very helpful.

[SMK]

Thanks Kilko. I have to admit, on your video i can't really hear anything detremental to the change. OK it's there but doesn't sound too bad to me as it goes.

Hey, here's another question. Do we still get the little indicator to show us the original value of a parameter ? Always thought that was very helpful.

Okay...I can hear it quite clearly, it is a popping sound. You may not hear it in the first round because the sound Kilko used can be used to slightly mask it but is a clear "POP" when the pattern switched to the next one. It sounds like a poorly timed loop on a Kaossilator Pro, or a sample with a huge delay on it that does not a a good decay.

It will get annoying if you are into switching patterns as part of your performance.

It's not a big deal with me...yet...because I intend to work in one pattern for each live song set piece but when I had an ES-1 I never got pops like that when I switched patterns.

Korg needs to get on this one.

[DrHoo]

Yeah, i agree & i do hear it but it doesn't bother me too much. They deffo should address it but like you, i'll work within one pattern for most stuff.

[Re-Member]

I can hear it being cut off, but it really doesn't sound bad at all. It just sounds like an old school tape splice. Look at it this way: this is just one isolated sound. Unless you use delay on every single sound (which will sound like a mess in itself, haha), this will be buried in the mix of things. Add Master Reverb and you probably won't hear much of anything.

[SMK]

I can hear it being cut off, but it really doesn't sound bad at all. It just sounds like an old school tape splice. Look at it this way: this is just one isolated sound. Unless you use delay on every single sound (which will sound like a mess in itself, haha), this will be buried in the mix of things. Add Master Reverb and you probably won't hear much of anything.

I can hear the cut off as well but it sounds like a "POP" and I hate that sound! So glad it is not with in the pattern...but I know I will eventually want to play around with switching patterns...my advice to Korg...Fix this before you fix anything else!