SG2 string resonance sounds gorgeous!

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Post by carmol »

ops Wrong example:
press a key until it fade off and keep it pressed,
press damper,
hit the same key one octave low,
release damper,
no sound at all.
in acoustic piano you will hear hamonics
of the first key pressed
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Post by SanderXpander »

Right, that's probably a limitation because the damper resonance is sample based. At least I think it is. There would be no (easy?) way to go from a sample of full keyboard resonance to single key resonance if the first is a sample.
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Post by Cpilot »

I tried the string resonance but I can't hear any difference. Dunno what I'm doing wrong. Maybe my ears are dying of old age.
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Post by pedro5 »

Cpilot....
Have a look at this.....it helped me !!!
StephenKay wrote:I think the Sympathetic Resonance adds a ton of realism to the piano. I have a 7'5" Yamaha C7 grand piano here by way of comparison. The new SR is a great feature when dialed in to an appropriate level.

For anyone who says "they can't hear it" - try this experiment:

- load KRONOS German Grand
- turn on SR and set level to about 30 (or higher if you want)
- play a CMaj triad in the octave below middle C (C3 - E3 - G3) and hold it (not with sustain pedal, with your fingers)
- Wait until the notes die out completely
- then, while continuing to hold those keys down (so that the "felt is off the strings"), play staccato short notes of a CMaj arpeggio in the octaves above the held notes, i.e. C4, E4, G4, C5, E5, G5, etc.
- Listen to the resonance of those 3 held notes ring out - very cool!

It's not going to do anything for a rock piano mixed into a track or live band, but for solo piano work or lightly accompanied new age/classical/film, it definitely adds realism, IMO. :)
I thought it was my hearing as well,but following the experiment Stephan kindly provided,I can now make sense of it.

Best Wishes.
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Post by carmol »

SanderXpander wrote:Right, that's probably a limitation because the damper resonance is sample based. At least I think it is. There would be no (easy?) way to go from a sample of full keyboard resonance to single key resonance if the first is a sample.
Maybe,
but other digital piano's do it.
and there are ways not too complicate to do it:
i.e. simulating damper resonance through string resonance
(more realistic),
or not disabling string resonance when damper is pressed,
but muting it until damper is depressed
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Post by SanderXpander »

Actually muting does seem like a good option. Of course then there would have to be a way to handle half damping too. But still, perhaps that's something that can be done in a version 3.1 or something.
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SanderXpander wrote:Actually muting does seem like a good option. Of course then there would have to be a way to handle half damping too. But still, perhaps that's something that can be done in a version 3.1 or something.
I hope so,
string resonance is really good sounding,
too bad that it's completely disactivated when using damper,
piano players use damper a lot.
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Post by arne v »

Try playing the piano while watching the rendering of the resonance. Its like falling snowballs :)
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arne v wrote:Try playing the piano while watching the rendering of the resonance. Its like falling snowballs :)
yes it looks very Christmassy :lol:
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Post by Cpilot »

Thanks Pedro5. I see how it works now. You certainly can hear the difference.
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Post by psionic311 »

I like the simulated sympathetic resonance. Like, not love. I like the sound of the damper resonance more. It has the phasing elements that the simulated sympathetic doesn't quite nail. But I am grateful overall :wink:
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Post by PCFREE »

Definitely to be used sparingly!
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