Electribe 2 note tie issue

KnowingWhatTheButtonDoes · Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:51 pm

I'm setting the gate value to tie and setting sequential note triggers with the same note value but still not getting tied (continuous/drone) notes

When I look into the preset patterns, their sequences with sustained notes have ties in them that work the way i would expect but the ones i add play back staccato.

Ive looked at every setting (I think). If anyone can let me know what ive overlooked...

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:50 am

Positive it's the same note in the same octave?

KnowingWhatTheButtonDoes · Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:10 am

Yep. Exact same note. The patch plays continuously when the pad is held down in keyboard mode but only plays a step at a time in seqencer mode even when tied to the next step. Its got me really worried, hope its me and not a bug in my unit.

DrHoo · Post by **DrHoo** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:17 am

I was messing with a pad patch & having a similar thing happen. 3 notes following each other & there's 'BLIP' somewhere ! I'm still scratching my head but if i suss it, i'll report back.... If we're on about the same thing that is !

KnowingWhatTheButtonDoes · Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:34 am

DrHoo,
If you take any constant osc and write a sequence of 2 or more steps (3 or more at >100bpm to really hear if its sustaining), set all the leading steps (ie tie-tie-tie-96 for a quarter note) to tie. Do you hear the osc sustain for that length (dunnnnnnnnnn) or does it reset each step (dun-dun-dun-dunnn).

Mine doesnt 'blip' here and there, it wont make tied notes at all!

But like i mentioned before the preset patterns have working ties but if i try to do exactly the same gate work with the same patches (or my own) i cant tie at all.

DrHoo · Post by **DrHoo** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 12:02 pm

My notes & envelope are retriggering with each programmed note. I tried the two different mono modes & the two different poly modes, there's no real continuation of drone.
Shame reallt because if the release time was longer i could get away with one note per sequence. Funny thing too, even though the tone won't last a full 4 bars, when i stop the sequencer it drones on for ages ! More irony.

MatGreGor · Post by **MatGreGor** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 1:00 pm

DrHoo wrote:I was messing with a pad patch & having a similar thing happen. 3 notes following each other & there's 'BLIP' somewhere ! I'm still scratching my head but if i suss it, i'll report back.... If we're on about the same thing that is !

I have the same problem with the "Blips" somewhere.

With the tied notes, i have to record many times the same phrase until i get decent results.

SMK · Post by **SMK** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:25 pm

I noticed that someone said that there are pre-loaded patches with note ties that work. Have you all tried just copying the pattern and work adding what you want while leaving the existing note tie in? Can you change the note / pitch / sound / effect of that note tie? Obviously if it is in the pre-loaded patterns there must be a way to make it happen.

I don't think that there is such a pattern that is made in such away that no one else can replicate it or learn from it

Examine how the feature was implemented and work backwards...seems to be the best solution.

SMK · Post by **SMK** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:29 pm

re-reading the first post on this, got me an idea ( now that I get you want a solid note, not a stepped sounding one). Do you have the arp gate feature on Kaoss pad "ON"? If you do you may get that staccato sound. That might be the source.

KnowingWhatTheButtonDoes · Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:04 pm

The gate arp was one of the first things i thought of too but its off. Changing any of the arp settings doesnt seem to address the issue.
If other people are having the same issue then: either we havent figured out some weird eccentricity of the sequencer OR there is a major fault with our firmware.
Should i call the shop?

KnowingWhatTheButtonDoes · Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:11 pm

BTW,
Ive seen clips of new tracks people have made on youtube that have very long notes in them that could only be tied steps, so their units must work or they know how to address the issue.

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:26 am

I wonder if playing the notes in from a MIDI controller changes things?

KnowingWhatTheButtonDoes · Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:37 am

I imagine a midi keyboard would only work in keyboard mode/realtime recording.
In Step Edit, pressing a key on the midi controler would probably change the note of the step but the length would still have to be set manually with the gate time.

KnowingWhatTheButtonDoes · Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:50 am

I noticed that someone said that there are pre-loaded patches with note ties that work. Have you all tried just copying the pattern and work adding what you want while leaving the existing note tie in? Can you change the note / pitch / sound / effect of that note tie? Obviously if it is in the pre-loaded patterns there must be a way to make it happen.

I don't think that there is such a pattern that is made in such away that no one else can replicate it or learn from it

Examine how the feature was implemented and work backwards...seems to be the best solution

When i first noticed the issue that is exactly what i did (using part01 from JaxMan4). I even rebuilt the patch from scratch and wrote the gate values into the Step Edit, verbatim. It sounds the same as if i took the preset part and turned all the tied notes back to 96.

DrHoo · Post by **DrHoo** » Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:55 am

Weather this has any bearing on the matter or not, i remember the previous electribes & certain patches always had a blip no matter how you trimmed the attack. Usually the triangles & sines, like a small thud at the start. I could never use those patches because the smoothness of the sound was always interupted by that blip at each trigger. I think i'm experiencing the same trate with this machine. On the other hand, it could be a combination of that & modulation patching, can't pin-point it.
It's a normal glitch in analogue synthesis with those waves too & varies according to what synth. Perhaps it's inherrent in Korg chips, not sure. Maybe it's me !