electribe 2 wish list

[Ted3000]

I'm sad to say there is still a slight gap/pause when changing patterns within the same "set". You can hear it pretty good in the Traveller demo patterns. It's not a smooth transition, sounds a bit like it has to over a little speed bump. And yes I run 1.03

So it seems the change log was right, it was mitigated a bit, but unfortunately not solved. I do understand there will be a delay when changing patterns that have different sounds and such. But within the same set of patterns it should be smooth, specially live.

Come on Korg!

I wish! (I actually wish.)

I'm not sure there's a way to create 100% perfect pattern changes. The electribe can't tell that a new pattern is supposed to be the "same" as the last one.

Load a new pattern and you're dumping 16 parts and instantly loading 16 others - even if it's the "same" pattern but different notes.

Even if the electribe could scan the patterns and determine identical settings and somehow only load the note sequence data to prevent weirdness - touch a knob and you've created a mismatch. Next pattern change will have a snap, click, artifact, gap, etc.

[dutchcow]

I think you're right, but I hope you're not. Because if you are there is no way these Tribes will ever be able to make proper transitions between patterns. Which makes the whole device rather useless for live performances, which is exactly what it was intended for.

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Yesterday Tempest users got yet another pattern length extension in the 1.4 firmware update.

Update:

I've contacted Korg support about this issue asking if there will be new updates soon, and if they think this pattern change stuff can really be fixed or not. If not this device is pretty much useless for live performances. I've also sent them a link to this thread so they can see all the issues/bugs reported here and all the great suggestions and requests for functions/features/fixes.

Lets hope this is fixable. It's becoming a bit like a stuck/dead pixel. Once you know it's there it can not be unseen it and will always see it on your screen. Once you've noticed the little delay/hump you can not unhear it.

I would suggest contacting Korg in addition to posting here. They market this device for live performance yet due to unreliable pattern changes it is pretty much a lemon on stage.

[apapdop]

I'm sad to say there is still a slight gap/pause when changing patterns within the same "set". You can hear it pretty good in the Traveller demo patterns. It's not a smooth transition, sounds a bit like it has to over a little speed bump. And yes I run 1.03

So it seems the change log was right, it was mitigated a bit, but unfortunately not solved. I do understand there will be a delay when changing patterns that have different sounds and such. But within the same set of patterns it should be smooth, specially live.

Come on Korg!

I wish! (I actually wish.)

I'm not sure there's a way to create 100% perfect pattern changes. The electribe can't tell that a new pattern is supposed to be the "same" as the last one.

Load a new pattern and you're dumping 16 parts and instantly loading 16 others - even if it's the "same" pattern but different notes.

Even if the electribe could scan the patterns and determine identical settings and somehow only load the note sequence data to prevent weirdness - touch a knob and you've created a mismatch. Next pattern change will have a snap, click, artifact, gap, etc.

I've got an esx-1 and the pattern change is almost always seamless. If the incoming pattern is radically, and i mean radically, different from the outgoing one in terms of fx and what samples are loaded, then you might get a tiny stumble. But in every "realistic" scenario, its smooth as cream. It's over 14 years old too. I think the expectation of a groovebox produced in 2014 which is heavily geared towards live use is that it can change patterns smoothly, hence all the fuss over this issue. It's kind of a given.

I'm still having a whole heap of fun with mine and ghere's plenty of scope in filling all 16 tracks and working within just one pattern, but the dead pixel analogy is spot on. Fingers crossed. And i've been in touch with Korg too.

[Vertical]

Another item I believe needs fixing is that the midi start command is issued at the start of the count in. This means that when you sync with another sequencer or device, and have a 4 bar sequence, the other devices will start a bar too soon.

[phillwilson]

Just found another REALLY odd behaviour... when using the gate arp button along with the touch scale button, it seems that it only takes one button press to activate the "touch scale", but in order to play with JUST the gate arp (usually for a drum hit rhythm that I DONT want to slide in pitch up and down) I need to either go to one of the other modes (Master FX or MFX Hold) and then press THAT button again to deactivate... this seems really clumsy for no good reason to me.

THEN, things get even weirder...


If I am trying to use the gate arp to play drum hits in a regular quantized pattern ( like you could in the EMX 1) ... the quantize seems, well, sloppy, even with simple arps like numbers 1 and 2, it seems to not be quantized so the first hit is only as good as my own sloppy playing, then the rest seem to dance around a fraction at a time until it settles down.

I also seem to have had instances where , when the pattern loops over, the rhythm that is left playing ISNT the same as the one I input, it seems to have MORE notes in it.

Next issue.... there is NO way to select a drum to use with the "gate arp" without it sounding as I select it.

Finally, there seems a crazy glitch where upon selecting a part using the trigger mode and appropriate pad, the touch pad WONT make a sound by just touching the touch pad with only the Gate Arp engaged...it WILL sound if I hold down a pad and then use the touch pad to create the pattern for the notes to be played in...and then , even more strangely, sometimes the sound WILL then be playable by touching the touch pad (again with just Gate Arp) ... but I can't work out why it sometimes works and some times does not.

ARGH !!!

[Tarekith]

Next issue.... there is NO way to select a drum to use with the "gate arp" without it sounding as I select it.

Press and hold Trigger then select the trigger pad you want to arp.

[apapdop]

Just found another REALLY odd behaviour... when using the gate arp button along with the touch scale button, it seems that it only takes one button press to activate the "touch scale", but in order to play with JUST the gate arp (usually for a drum hit rhythm that I DONT want to slide in pitch up and down) I need to either go to one of the other modes (Master FX or MFX Hold) and then press THAT button again to deactivate... this seems really clumsy for no good reason to me.

Ok, with just the touch scale button lit, press the gate arp button. Now they are both lit. Press the gate arp button again, then the touch scale button is unlit and you are in gate arp only mode.

[phillwilson]

phew, thanks for that...this alone helps me want to keep the electribe..been considering sending it back under distance selling regs.

we seem to have PLENTY of buttons here that could be used for shift style held down combos.

I would love to see a held step/pad in sequencer more plus the pitch knob allow the pitch of the selected step be altered up and down but within the active scale.

[phillwilson]

[quote="apapdop
Ok, with just the touch scale button lit, press the gate arp button. Now they are both lit. Press the gate arp button again, then the touch scale button is unlit and you are in gate arp only mode.[/quote]

thanks to you personally for pointing this out but here is another implementation that makes me want to scream AAAAARGH to Korg for making such a wildly obtuse way of enabling and disabling what should ideally just be simply "touch once for on / touch again OR any conflicting button to defeat"

did the team who wrote the beautiful OS for the original EMX all suddenly get moved off this project or something? it feels like we have been given the work- experience boys efforts.

[bingkingbo]

Wish the motion sequence can record oscillator change, i tried it only can recorded in event recorder...too inconvenient

i think this is very useful functions, and it will be very cool for the electribe sampler too, really need it!

[noobnr39]

my list of wishes :

- shift+edit for both the IFX, OSC and MFX ( MFX really needs some way to edit with numerical value )

- STEP EDITTING MOTION SEQUENCE : MAJOR FEATURE IN EMX !!!! ( gotta love this )

- Part muting with SHIFT

- 8 Bars , Shift+bar 1,2,3,4 = bar 5,6,7,8 ( lighting them up with a different colour )

- editable EG time for the Filter with Shift+EG int

- a more logical way to edit modulation waveforms

- smooth pattern changing

- secondary IFX, also , chainable IFX ? ( internal audio in from part to part )

- shift+decay/release to edit both.

- assignable Velocity modulation

- assignable Touchpad values/modulations.

- SMOOTH PATTERN TRANSITIONS, SMOOTH FX TRANSITIONS

- ANNOYING TICKS IN THE SYNTH PARTS ( editted attack , release, IFX off, etc etc etc, still having these annoying ticks in my subs and even mid synths )

- the way the synth engine worked on the EMX is way more convenient and trustworthy than the Electribe2, i dont have to worry at all times about the voices. whatever combination of 5 synths id choose ( not having problems with 5 x 5 voice unison synths )

- Basically, everything the EMX had should ATLEAST be implemented in the new device. So far i keep using my EMX and the Electribe2 is just collecting dust........




Sorry korg, you have dissapointed me on this one. i thought this would be a great update from the EMX. I really REALLY hope you update the living f*ck*ng s**t out of this device.

i love the sound of it, very clear, but also , very simple. i loved the sheer RAWNESS of the EMX1.


Please update this baby :'( it has so damn much potential !!!!!!!!!

[DrHoo]

Sometimes when i send a part to the E.G the edit function of the E.G does nothing until i mess around with the attack & Decay/release for a while. Like it's thinking about it but is slow to realize ! I've also had some freeze-ups including one where an ins effect swittched on but no amount of button pressing would switch it off. Had to power down to reset it.

[takadoum]

Sometimes when i send a part to the E.G the edit function of the E.G does nothing until i mess around with the attack & Decay/release for a while. Like it's thinking about it but is slow to realize !

Same here, when decay is maximum, sometimes attack knob won't work, and I have to turn down decay and up again to have the attack avalaible (decay value being exactly the same).

[DrHoo]

Sometimes when i send a part to the E.G the edit function of the E.G does nothing until i mess around with the attack & Decay/release for a while. Like it's thinking about it but is slow to realize !

Same here, when decay is maximum, sometimes attack knob won't work, and I have to turn down decay and up again to have the attack avalaible (decay value being exactly the same).

Yup, sounds like the same bug.

[takadoum]

About gate arp and touchpad...
I agree with phillwilson and the erratic behaviour of gate arp.
Here is what I found out :

- If you hold trigger and select a pad, gate arp won't work, that's a shame ! Even if you select the part with trigger and then release it
So, no way to select a part for arp without triggering !
- And when you play gate arp, quantization is s**t, very very weird.
- Worst of all, when you release the touchpad, it almost always eats next notes of the part pattern ! Touchpad sensitivity is s**t, or there's some kind of weird release, I don't know, even when you press it very very slightly...

BUT, I've just found a way to make it clean and to solve everything : FIRST press the touchpad, THEN hit the pad, and by magic :
- No trigger before arping because no need to select/trigger the sound before pressing touchpad
- It seems much better quantized !!!
- It solves the problem of touchpad sensitivity or touchpad release, because you use the pads sensitivity which is much better !

Even better, you can hit any pad while holding the arp, that's very cool compared to EMX

So in the end, I can have fun now with touchpad, and sometimes even better than EMX because you can use any part pad with it.
Just watch out because when you hit a pad it also selects the part, so if you want to use knobs...