Playing with midi file

[AdmirR]

With midi file I want to play also with my Right Hand!

So,when I play with right hand some midi channels need to be off. When I start singing all tracks need to be ON and my hands free.

Questions is: How I can ON and OFF midi tracks during playing switch with only one move(ON Tyros I do that trough registrations bottoms easy).

So fare I found out that I must ON-OFF all tracks manualy,and that take time.
I tried to memorize with STS and that is not possible.

Thanks!

[Reuben]

It is possible to mute Track 4 of a Midi Touching an Assignable Switch so one option would be to make sure all your midis have the accompaniment track in Track 4. You could move current track 4 to an unused track and move your accompaniment track to Track 4.
Then hit Shift Assignable Switch and change it to Song-Melody Mute.
Alternatively - and this might be better - check what track you commonly want to mute and go to Menu, preferences, SMF Melody Track, and change it from 4 to the track that most want to mute. Then use the Assignable switch as mentioned.
Cheers,
John

[Dikikeys]

A lot is going to depend on how consistent the sounds are to MIDI channels in your sequences... Usually, bass on 2 and drums on 10 are about the only universal choices (and even bass can be found occasionally on the wrong channel), and the guide is usually on channel 4.

But your needs could vary... You haven't really described WHAT you want to mute while you are singing and not playing. Or playing and not singing (can't you do both?!).

So, in the long run, you are better off editing your sequences, erasing tracks ONLY in the section you want to play, and leaving the stuff in when you don't want to. Unless your tracks' pianos are always on one channel, rhythm guitars on another, brass on another etc (few ever are), you can't really set up one global track mute system and guarantee to mute what you want, when you want on the fly... Even if you only wanted to mute the same thing each song, which I doubt.

Sorry there's no mind-reading input, so you didn't have to go through this process, but at least, once it's done, it's DONE!

[siebenhirter]

With midi file I want to play also with my Right Hand!. When I start singing all tracks need to be ON and my hands free.

A simple solution is to use Drum-and-Bass-Mode of Songplay-Preferences: set both Drum-Track and Bass-Track to Channel 16 and use a footswitch (assignable switch, EC5 .. ) with assigned function "Drum&Bass".

Hope you have no Note-Events (except VH-Events) on ch16 of your SMF each time using footswitch your Midi-Tracks (1-15) are set to on/off as you want to do.

[AdmirR]

But your needs could vary... You haven't really described WHAT you want to mute while you are singing and not playing. Or playing and not singing (can't you do both?!).

Ok I will explain:

Example:

Midi file: 14 tracks playing and during the song playing I need Mute and unmute tracks:4 , 5 , 6,, 13 and 14 a lease 5-6 time during song playing.

On Tyros5 this is done trough Registrations memory Bank:So any time I want Mute or unmute I am pressing 1 of the 8 bottons in registrations memory bank,depence on wich i memorise.

Editing Midi file is a very long way and not working for me in this case,because every time I am playing it maybe is not going be same time that I want Mute-Unmute.

[siebenhirter]

Editing Midi file is a very long way and not working for me in this case,because every time I am playing it maybe is not going be same time that I want Mute-Unmute.

In Globals/Songplay-Preferences select "16" for parameter "DrumTrack" and also select "16" for parameter "BassTrack".

Use assign-function "Drum&Bass" to a footswitch (or assignable switch, or pad or EC5).

There nothing is to edit in your SMF, because tracks 1 - 15 of your SMF are muted/unmuted via footswitch or pad.

[Dikikeys]

But Admir, unless ALL your SMF's have the sounds you want muted on certain tracks only, no 'global' system will do. You mention that not every song is the same... heck you probably don't even KNOW which sounds are on which channels all the time, do you?

So how can you set up any one thing to do a variety of different things?

If all you wanted to do was mute all but bass and drums, easy enough. But your post doesn't seem to indicate this, does it? This is a lot more complex than you think...

Sieben, as usual, is answering a question that hasn't been asked...

[siebenhirter]

Dicky,
to muted/unmuted via footswitch or pad is exactly the answer to the question "How I can ON and OFF midi tracks during playing switch with only one move", only using vh-events on ch16 for singing as one do with Tyros (once try to think practically)

Especially for you: in Globals/Songplay-Preferences selected parameter for "DrumTrack" and "BassTrack" does not mean to mute all but bass and drum, but means all but channel of selected parameter. If that parameter is 16 (maybe with VH-events) channel 16 never will be muted, but each other (1 - 15) via "one move".

[AdmirR]

If all you wanted to do was mute all but bass and drums, easy enough. But your post doesn't seem to indicate this, does it? This is a lot more complex than you think...
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I am sory if I did not explain the best way.

I will try this way:

EXAMPLE:

When I am playing with right hands on Tyros5 MIDI tracks are in this positions:

Track 1 : Accordions OF

Track 2 : Bas ON

Track 3 : Harmony strings ON

Track 4: Accordions OF

Track 5 : Acordions OF

Track 6 : Leading strings OF

Track 7 Leading strings2 OF

Track 8 : Rytam Giutar ON

Track 9 : GM voice ON

Track 10 : Drum ON

Track 11 : Strings 1 ON

Track 12 : Strings 2 OFF

Track 13 : GM Synth voice OF

Track 14 : M PAD Voice ON

When I am singing all tracks ON !

So trough registar memory with 1-2 botons I am momenterly switching ON-OFF,and not Just that i can have 8 diferente setups ON-OFF for tracks and call theem momentarly!

All songs NOT maked same way ,some have Bas on Track 2,some have on Track 9 ........
Yamaha maked that wery easy controling trough Registar Memory Banks.

So Now I am looking easy way on My PA900.

Thanks!

[Dikikeys]

All I've been trying to say is that very few SMF's have standard channel assignments for sounds. Bass on 2 and drums on 10 is about it...

Unless ALL your SMF's have the same type sounds on the same type channel, any on/off switches that simply mute the same channel each time would not work, because on one SMF you would be muting the piano, and a different SMF you'd be muting the strings, or the horns, or anything!

Now, if you have made the SMF's yourself (or bought them from someone that did have a consistent sound/channel system) then yes, muting Parts could work. But if, like most SMF's are, the sound/channel assignments are shotgunned all over the place, no one global system can work...

So, if each Performance can have a CUSTOM set of Part Mutes for the sequencer, then yes, associate the SMF with the Performance, then set up the Mutes for that ONE song. But I was under the impression you were looking for an EASY way to do this that didn't involve setting up something for each and every song you have, individually.

My apologies if I misunderstood...

[AdmirR]

Thank you Dikikeys!

[siebenhirter]

Now I am looking easy way on My PA900.

While playing back and sing along with a SMF and play instrumental parts live, there is no solution to use custom performance to mute/unmute SMF-tracks.

That is because play/mute status only is memorized into SMFs and can be read in SongPlay-mode. Performances of Pa-Keyboards does not memorize mute/unmute songtracks (IMHO). Do not think Pa900 is able to memorize status mute/unmute it its performances.

If one do not like to mute/unmute Song tracks touching the Play/Mute-icon in the Volume panel for Song tracks, there are some tricky ways to do that, but with published standard-procedures one only can do that as mentioned with Drum&Bass-Mode.

Drum&Bass-Mode is a solution at least one can switch between "all-tracks-on" to "two-tracks-on" with usage of a switch (assignableSwitch, Footswitch, Pad, EC5).