30 GB SSD too small ? - You can upgrade it !

[jeremykeys]

Thanks! That's great. I've been wanting to do this for some time. I think I'm more than capable but my better half is concerned. Rightly so seeing as how much it cost to by the Kronos.

[Tnt2gamer]

I changed my 62GB Toshiba THNSNH062GCST to a 512GB Toshiba THNSNJ512GCST. With the Kronos 2 and OS 3.0.2, I did not have to reinstall the system. The drive worked perfect after the cloning and partition extension, with no more steps needed. Everything was still authorized, too, including the EXs17 and EXs18 sound libraries.

[Bono Best]

Hi,
Did you clone with clonezilla? Can you tell us about the steps, how you do that? Thank you

[Rich Z]

What exactly is Korg's stand on warranty issues if someone upgrades their own SSD to a larger unit? I understand they won't warranty the new SSD, of course, but do they blanket deny ANY warranty claims, even those completely unrelated to SSD based failures because of a user opening up their keyboard?

Good sized SSDs have come WAY down on price lately, and it's been my experience that all storage devices shrink rapidly with age. So figure out the largest size possible that you think you would EVER need, and then double that.

[GregC]

What exactly is Korg's stand on warranty issues if someone upgrades their own SSD to a larger unit? I understand they won't warranty the new SSD, of course, but do they blanket deny ANY warranty claims, even those completely unrelated to SSD based failures because of a user opening up their keyboard?

lets walk thru this. Lets say your Kronos is under factory warranty. you decide to open the bottom cover and install a new or 2nd SSD. you close the cover, flip on your Kronos and it goes crispy. As I understand it, Korg will no longer cover any free warranty on your Kronos.

If an auth service center installs a new SSD, on your currently covered Kronos, I believe that the Korg factory warranty is still valid.

[beastly61]

how big of a drive could be installed by korg support?

[enigmahack]

how big of a drive could be installed by korg support?

The size of the drive is mostly irrelevant, since the external hardware of a drive looks absolutely identical to other sizes; a 30gb SSD and a 256gb SSD look identical.

I had to provide my drive to them, and they installed it. I went with a 128gb SSD, but chose speed over size and purposely chose a drive that has very fast r/w times.

[Tnt2gamer]

Hi,
Did you clone with clonezilla? Can you tell us about the steps, how you do that? Thank you

I used Clonezilla for the cloning process, using a raw sector by sector copy. Then I used GParted to extend the partition. The steps are on this French site. You can use Google Translate to convert it to another language.

http://www.kronoscopie.fr/remplacer-ajouter-un-ssd.html

[Rich Z]

how big of a drive could be installed by korg support?

The size of the drive is mostly irrelevant, since the external hardware of a drive looks absolutely identical to other sizes; a 30gb SSD and a 256gb SSD look identical.

I had to provide my drive to them, and they installed it. I went with a 128gb SSD, but chose speed over size and purposely chose a drive that has very fast r/w times.

Hardware dimensions aside, (and I don't think he was referring to that anyway) when dealing with operating systems, there could be a question of exactly how much drive space the OS can actually directly access. So I think that would be the question in my mind. I see reasonably priced SSDs for 1TB available now. Sizes will get larger and prices will get lower.

With the current crop of Kronos keyboards right now, what is the MAX capacity that the OS on them can access on a SSD?

I recently ran into a toe-stubber of the Kronos only being able to recognize USB drives sporting FAT15 and FAT32 formats. FAT32 cannot address a drive capacity of larger than 2TB. Yeah, that seems like a LOT right now, but I wish I had a dollar bill for every time over the years that I would buy the largest drive available and think I would NEVER, EVER, need a larger drive than that. Heck, I still remember when 1.4meg floppy disks used to be considered reasonable for offline storage.

[enigmahack]

how big of a drive could be installed by korg support?

The size of the drive is mostly irrelevant, since the external hardware of a drive looks absolutely identical to other sizes; a 30gb SSD and a 256gb SSD look identical.

I had to provide my drive to them, and they installed it. I went with a 128gb SSD, but chose speed over size and purposely chose a drive that has very fast r/w times.

Hardware dimensions aside, (and I don't think he was referring to that anyway) when dealing with operating systems, there could be a question of exactly how much drive space the OS can actually directly access. So I think that would be the question in my mind. I see reasonably priced SSDs for 1TB available now. Sizes will get larger and prices will get lower.

With the current crop of Kronos keyboards right now, what is the MAX capacity that the OS on them can access on a SSD?

I recently ran into a toe-stubber of the Kronos only being able to recognize USB drives sporting FAT15 and FAT32 formats. FAT32 cannot address a drive capacity of larger than 2TB. Yeah, that seems like a LOT right now, but I wish I had a dollar bill for every time over the years that I would buy the largest drive available and think I would NEVER, EVER, need a larger drive than that. Heck, I still remember when 1.4meg floppy disks used to be considered reasonable for offline storage.

No no, you're totally right.

From an OS perspective though, it's using either EXT2 or EXT3 I think as the filesystem which doesn't have the same restrictions fortunately. I don't know what the upper limit is, but nothing we should hit "anytime soon"

*Disclaimer - Once upon a time Bill Gates stated something along the lines of having a 64mb hard drive would be the largest drive we should ever need. Never say never.

[Rich Z]

No no, you're totally right.

From an OS perspective though, it's using either EXT2 or EXT3 I think as the filesystem which doesn't have the same restrictions fortunately. I don't know what the upper limit is, but nothing we should hit "anytime soon"

*Disclaimer - Once upon a time Bill Gates stated something along the lines of having a 64mb hard drive would be the largest drive we should ever need. Never say never.

LOL! When I bought my first ever PC (Exidy Sorcerer if anyone here has every heard of it) the salesman told me that I would NEVER need more than the 32kb RAM that came with the system. And he was also adamant that my search for a system based on a 4 mHz Z80 processor was a waste of time, because I would NEVER need a processor that fast for a home based computer.

Now to more mundane topics, can the stock SSD in the Kronos be cloned to a larger SSD using a PC Windows based system with appropriate software? I thought the OS for the Kronos is based on Linux, and after my head bump against FAT32 for the USB drive, I figure I should ask.....

I actually lease two Linux based servers but just never had the patience to dig into Linux to learn the mechanics of it.

[Tnt2gamer]

Now to more mundane topics, can the stock SSD in the Kronos be cloned to a larger SSD using a PC Windows based system with appropriate software? I thought the OS for the Kronos is based on Linux, and after my head bump against FAT32 for the USB drive, I figure I should ask.....

I actually lease two Linux based servers but just never had the patience to dig into Linux to learn the mechanics of it.

Rich Z, I actually used Clonezilla and GParted on a PC. I burned them to CD and booted from CD to use them. I did not look into any other programs, because I have been using Clonezilla and GParted for several years now.

It looks like Todo Backup Free 8.2 http://www.easeus.com/backup-software/tb-free.html and EaseUS Partition Master http://www.partition-tool.com/ will do the same thing, and they run inside of Windows.

[cbelcher1]

My Kronos v1 started to hang and sometimes give me an error stating I needed to reinstall the OS, perfect opportunity to upgrade the SSD.

I selected a Samsung 120GB 850 EVO. Model number MZ-75E120B/AM, currently $65 on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-2-5-Inch- ... B00OAJ5N6I


Super easy project, I would say from start to finish took me 2 hours. I've put together a little how to guide. Hope it helps someone.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3dzgfxtfjrz5 ... tqWSa?dl=0

[Fox_Mulder]

I will thank those who have done this before and read this thread completely before i attempted this .

I will post photos of the process once i figure out how to.

I upgraded my Kronos 2 88 with two new Samsung SSD 850 250 GB drives.

upon removing the bottom cover it was quite evident that the second SATA connector which is port 1 would take a little doing. It was under the EMI shield but it is possible to put a SATA cable on it using a right angle connector, and great care getting it in place.

to accomplish this I loosened the EMI shielding by carefully pulling up on it it is glued in place in a few places by a rubber cement and comes up with a little effort . I cut three tye wraps from under the plastic cover in front of the power supply card. Just to loosen up the key bed giving me the space to clip in the SATA connector it. I had my Lovely and very helpful Wife lift up on the key bed and I connected the SATA cable to the motherboard end first. the rest was fairly easy. Route the SATA cable back to the SSD cage. replace the tye wraps to the plastic shield in front of the power supply card, and press the EMI shield back into place the rubber cement will hold it and then the bottom cover will.

getting the SSD's into place from this point was fairly simple and there are videos posted here so i am not going to describe this.

preparing the SSD :

first off with 3.01 you cannot format a 250GB SSD as posted here it will hang after bout 1/3 of the way taking about 7 min. I did try with my external DVD drive attached and booted with DVD 1 in the drive.

so I used EASEUS as described in postings here to clone the drive. just make a boot-able USB flash drive and boot with your drives hooked up to your computer and clone this was about a 10 to 15 min process. very simple and straight forward.

next the drive needs to have the primary partition expanded to the whole drive so all that extra space is available. i used gparted which was again more complex than cloning the drive but fairly simple. Once this is remove the SSD from your computer and install in the Kronos.

Boot with the DVD drive attached and Disk one in it. Select Full install from the menu, swap disks when asked and then reboot once loading is finished. you will not need to reauthorize your machine and any files you had installed , or recorded will still be there. you may have to upgrade the OS to the most current one. My DVD's are version 3.01 and i installed 3.03 again once I was done.

the second SSD is easy (once the SATA cable is attached ) just format from Disk utilities.

So now my Kronos 2 88 has two 250GB SSD drives!

I can say my boot times and quicker. and that the samsung 850 series SSD with the 3D Vnand memory work very well. I ordered mine on amazon for about $85.

so if someone can tell me how to post the Pics ???

[nofal]

Check you Factory folder date , is it 2011, 2012 or anything else , you will need it at the end.
Copy everything on the original ssd to a 32GB USB stick or more or on another external 2-5" HDD or ssd with enclosure formatted on the keyboard to fat32-quick specially the Factory folder (32GB is more than enough for it) . You can unlock it by looking at the menu (upper right corner).
Also save all everything.
The factory folder on the keyboard was dated for 2011
The factory folder after the update of the ssd (using DVDs 1 and 2) was dated for 2012.
I noticed some libraries (specially combis libraries) were created using the 2011 factory folder , so if you load them to another bank (using the 2012 factory folder) they might sound wrong due to incorrect programs references.

Format your SSD and a USB stick to fat32 using MiniTool Partition
Wizard
I used Samsung evo 840 120 GB 6 G/s
You will need an external DVD ( I used ASUS SDRW-08D2S)
Download EaseUS_DiskCopy_Home - free - doesn't matter what email you use.
Download gparted-live-0.24.0-2-i586 - first one in download page.
Download YUMI-2.0.1.9

All USB ports I used were USB 3.

I used two sata external enclosures.(not a docking station)
One is connected to the original ssd and the other to the fat32 new
ssd.

A.
Create boot-able EaseUS_DiskCopy_Home USB
1. Run the program. no installation required.
2. Choose USB.
3. Click proceed.
4. Exit the program

B.
Plug the boot-able USB and your two enclosures to USB ports ( I used
usb 3 for all the three ) Change Bios to boot from USB.

C.
1. Once EaseUS_DiskCopy_Home stared choose Disck Copy ( not
partition).
2. Select source : select the original disk that you will copy from
( it will be numbered disk 1, disk 2, disk 3 ...extra)
Disks can be extended if you click on the + sign beside them,
The original disk has 4 partitions with ext format. One is unallocated.
You just need to click on the Disk , like select Disk 2 for example.
2. Click next.
3. Select you destination disk number - for example Disk 4 (the new
one with fat32 format).
4. Next
5. Don't check "Quite and ignore read/write option"
6. click Next.
7. Click Proceed.
8. Quite the program.
9.Your system will reboot, click DeL to go to setup.
10. Once in setup - change Bios to boot as it was before.
11. Let windows start, when asked for password, don't enter
password , just choose to shut it down.
12. Once shut down you can unplug the two ssd enclosures and the USB

If you shut your system off after quitting EaseUS_DiskCopy_Home you might damage the original ssd, so shut it the safe way.

D.
Format the USB back to Fat32.

E. Plug your USB again, Run Yumi, click "I Agree"
1. Step Choose your USB in yumi.
2. Step 2 click the menu underneath and scroll down to System tools

and look for gparted live, select it.
3. Step 3 : Brows for the gparted iso file and open or select it.
4. Click Next.
5. When done it will ask if you want to work on other ISO files,
select No.
6. Exit the program.
7. Shutdown the system

E.
1.Plug both the new USB and the New ssd , and start the system,
change bios to boot from USB (click del to go to setup)
2.select system tools.
3.select Gpart live (default settings)
4.select )Don't touch keymap)
5. Type 02 for British English
6. Type 0 (Continue to start)

F.
1. Once started look at the top right corner and click the arrow and
select your new ssd
2. Look at the light blue square (underneath the red one) - it has
the larger size, also you can see at the end the ( unallocated )
part.
3. Click on the light blue square and then click on resize at the
menu bar of Gpart.
4.Extend it to the most available size by just dragging the arrow to
the right then click ok, then click (APPLY ) in the gpart menu bar.
5. Under the blue light square you will see three squares:
One is ext2
Second is ext3 - select this one (dark blue square)
Third is unallocated
6. After you select the one that is ext3 , click Resize in menu bar
then resize it to the far right, click ok, then click apply.
7. Quite Gpart and shut the system safely.

G. Install the ssd.
H. Place DVD1 in the Asus DVD drive, plug it to a USB port.
I. Turn on the keyboard.
J. Select number 2 (Full install)
K. System will ask for DVD2, insert it.
L. System will ask you to power off, power it off, wait 5 - 10
seconds, restart.
M. Format a USB ( in the keyboard ) to Fat 32 - quick format - Disk
option on keyboard).
N. Load system 3.03 on the USB and update your system version.
O. Load your original Factory folder that you copied at the beginning.

Done.
Time around 1 hour and 30 minutes.
Boot time 1 m:34 sec. just for Preload.kSC. auto-load.