Anything the Volca Sample can do that new ES2 can't

Redmond Barry · Post by **Redmond Barry** » Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:14 pm

Other than the obvious analogue isolator of course. I love the Volca Sample and just wanting basically a "big brother" version of it essentially. Looking through the manual and images it looks like the new Electribe Sampler should do the trick to my eyes, but I could be wrong. Any thoughts?

Buska · Post by **Buska** » Thu Apr 23, 2015 9:47 pm

I'm just guessing here but does the esx2 have flux mode for patterns?
Also what about motion recording the sample start value of a sample?

Redmond Barry · Post by **Redmond Barry** » Thu Apr 23, 2015 11:39 pm

That's right the motion recording of start and end! If it's on the ESX2 it's not obvious that it's there. Does the Volca Sample have flux mode? Did I miss that?

Tom 62 · Post by **Tom 62** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 4:59 am

The Volca sequencer supports parameter locks, the Electribe not.

GMC#1 · Post by **GMC#1** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:40 am

Song Mode!

Redmond Barry · Post by **Redmond Barry** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 11:46 am

Tom 62 wrote:The Volca sequencer supports parameter locks, the Electribe not.

No parameter locks?! That is disappointing. Song mode I can live without. But parameter locks on the Volca is a great feature. Hopefully they'll add that with firmware maybe. I still probably will get the Electribe Sampler, but it won't be putting the Volca sampler out of business!

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:19 pm

You can sorta do it on the electribe too, you just motion sequence a knob and then set it to step quantize. Not as easy to dial in specific values as it is on say the elektron stuff, but pretty close.

thesigma · Post by **thesigma** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 3:14 pm

Tarekith wrote:You can sorta do it on the electribe too, you just motion sequence a knob and then set it to step quantize. Not as easy to dial in specific values as it is on say the elektron stuff, but pretty close.

It was easy on the previous electribes with step edit of motion sequences, though I've never used electron gear to compare I can't imagine it being much easier. Sadly I'm told that step editing of motion sequences was removed in the e2 lin. Can't fathom why.

roblabs · Post by **roblabs** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 3:37 pm

I guess they removed it to go with the whole "live performance" philosophy

apapdop · Post by **apapdop** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 3:45 pm

roblabs wrote:I guess they removed it to go with the whole "live performance" philosophy

I do hope it gets re-introduced. But i think you're right, you often ended up farting about editing the sequence values!!

Redmond Barry · Post by **Redmond Barry** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 4:40 pm

I don't use it a whole lot on the Volca but it really is useful. I hope they re-introduce it too. It's not a deal breaker, but like I said, I'll be having the Electribe and Volca Sample side by side.

thesigma · Post by **thesigma** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:42 am

roblabs wrote:I guess they removed it to go with the whole "live performance" philosophy

Well that's a shame if they think it wasn't useful for live performances. You could set it up so you could do live knob tweaks and have everything, or just key parameters snap back to certain values at the start of each bar or each 2 bars or 4 bars, etc. very useful feature for live, IMO.

Of course you set this up before hand, can't be mucking about actually doing the step editing during a show...

dutchcow · Post by **dutchcow** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:47 am

Why does it have an Ableton Export function if its meant to be used live? It's not like you can export in the background and load it on your laptop whilst performing. It's a schizophrenic box really. No matter how Korg markets it.

Redmond Barry · Post by **Redmond Barry** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:12 pm

dutchcow wrote:Why does it have an Ableton Export function if its meant to be used live? It's not like you can export in the background and load it on your laptop whilst performing. It's a schizophrenic box really. No matter how Korg markets it.

I'm for making the best box you can and let the people that play it apply their creatvity. Like the Volca Sample actually is a good example. I feel like it's packed with features, especially for what it is. Sure 4mb sample memory is low, but that's something I don't even think about. Whereas parameter locks I would miss. Anyway, I'd think this is all stuff Korg could fix with firmware. Hopefully they'll listen to their users.