Back Up UPS Up In Smoke

[Bertotti]

Don't arbitraily think putting a power conditioner in front of your UPS is a good thing because in most cases, at least with the units I have used, it is not recommended.

[GRISWOLD3]

Thanks for the input. Several people asked what model I was using so here it is:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss/ ... A+325W+UPS

This also has a helpful display for Voltage In/ Out, Battery life etc AND has the ability to turn the freaking beeping off in battery mode. My older Tripplite didn't have those features but I had different issues with it as well.

I may check out the Furman model mentioned.

BTW crash helmets for UPS testing got a good laugh from me!

[timbukktwo]

The Furman is a solid unit with great features and priced reasonably. I'll let you do your research, but one of the main, great features is: if there is a damaging current that comes through the unit, not only will it protect what's connected, but the unit itself as well (as the unit itself is non-sacrificial). This means that the unit dissapates the current so the unit itself won't fry, either!

[Bertotti]

I am sure the firman is solid! The problem is chaining a conditioner with a ups when both use some sort of monitoring the disclaimers on the data sheets I have read specifically said that could be an issue. I do not know how. Also if you use the firman on its own and it is not a UPS then you still have the risk of black outs or even worse for the Kronos, Brown outs. I know for a fact it was these brown outs that wreaked havoc with my Kronos, a seen here by when the lights flicker a bit.

Tripp had great products at one time I can only think they still do. I use an APC ups for my kronos and it didn't cost an arm and a leg.

[timbukktwo]

The Furman has a no compromise, greatly-featured set of tools included in ONE unit, and not limited to: UPS, voltage regulation, power conditioning, non-sacrificial voltage protection, etc. Go to their site for more information. It's a great product! I also use their P-1800 PF R. I've never had a problem with either product. (I don't work for Furman, and I've heard decent things about APC.)

[ronnfigg]

Don't arbitraily think putting a power conditioner in front of your UPS is a good thing because in most cases, at least with the units I have used, it is not recommended.

Got a reference? Here's mine.

http://www.sweetwater.com/insync/power- ... explained/

[Steve Mc]

If anyone is interested, I was involved in quite a lot of CE testing (European equivalent of UL testing) on electronics.

Over voltage, of a normal occurrence level, is usually removed when you get through the transformer and down to the regulation on the circuit boards which holds the voltage to 5V for the microchips.

Under voltage, usually due to local sudden shifts in load or dodgy power generation, when transferred through the transformers and regulators can result in a voltage drop below the 3.5-5V level that the chips are designed to work at (all chips vary). When you hit the borderline level, some chips have enough power to run and some don't. This is where electronic circuits really get screwed up, when some run and some don't.

Therefore, if you want to protect your complex electronic device, a UPS that picks up spikes and dips to a fine level will always help. This should however, be covered by the design of the product on start up, such that it will reset all the necessaries and get itself back in order if it does get upset.

Alternatively, talk to it nicely and give it a hug...

[Bertotti]

ronnfigg, I do not have any documents proof. i took a look around for my papers but have probably long since thrown them away. I might have faulty memory anything is possible. Take my post as you like in the end the best thing to do is check you documentation for your product because i know I was either instructed by the rep or read not to use my power conditioner in front of my ups which had some circuitry for monitoring the line and the conditioner might confuse it. I don't know if thats the case I just didn't use the cheap surge protector and ran everything to my ups which has been flawless through surges and drops for two years. Better as then sorry perhaps it isn't an issue now. Forewarned at least gives a person a chance to check.

[Bachus]

I'm using an APC brand and it's nearing 2 years old. It's been perfect. I have seen UPS's have batteries go bad and in some cases, leak. Those were usually always plugged into a computer that was always on for years.

Mine is only turned on each Sunday when I play, otherwise it is powered off and stored during the week.

Geo

Keep in mind, battery life is about 2 to 3 years...

You need to think about replacing those batteries soon..


being an IT engineer, APC is probably the safest bet you can go when it comes down to UPS affordabillity and reliabillity

[geoelectro]

I'm using an APC brand and it's nearing 2 years old. It's been perfect. I have seen UPS's have batteries go bad and in some cases, leak. Those were usually always plugged into a computer that was always on for years.

Mine is only turned on each Sunday when I play, otherwise it is powered off and stored during the week.

Geo

Keep in mind, battery life is about 2 to 3 years...

You need to think about replacing those batteries soon..


being an IT engineer, APC is probably the safest bet you can go when it comes down to UPS affordabillity and reliabillity

Good call. I'll look into doing just that!

Geo

[JITZ]

[quote="StephenKay"]For what it's worth, I've been using APC products for years with no problems, and they work as advertised and have saved my work many times. (We have really crappy power here that can just go off in the middle of the day for no apparent reason.)[/quote]

Hey Stephen
pls specify which UPS should I buy for KRONOS 2