Sledgehammer Shakuhachi sample

jorgemncardoso · Post by **jorgemncardoso** » Fri May 29, 2015 7:44 am

Hi guys, just thought i posted this here for anyone interested. It's the original Peter Gabriel's Sledgehammer Shakuhachi sample. I've been struggling with this for a while but never been able to get the riff to sound right. This is actually the original used on the album as far as i can tell. I've included the two versions, the album one and the live one. The album one was just the beginning of the sample with the end tail faded out. He used that on tour and also sometimes a looped version that i've also included. After 2003 they started to use the full original sample witch i think it sounds better

I've also included the original EmulatorII sample from where that riff and sample was made.

https://copy.com/YyCHL7wxFjW9oqB9

Cheers.

drb32856 · Post by **drb32856** » Sat May 30, 2015 1:56 am

jorgemncardoso wrote:Hi guys, just thought i posted this here for anyone interested. It's the original Peter Gabriel's Sledgehammer Shakuhachi sample. I've been struggling with this for a while but never been able to get the riff to sound right. This is actually the original used on the album as far as i can tell. I've included the two versions, the album one and the live one. The album one was just the beginning of the sample with the end tail faded out. He used that on tour and also sometimes a looped version that i've also included. After 2003 they started to use the full original sample witch i think it sounds better

I've also included the original EmulatorII sample from where that riff and sample was made.

https://copy.com/YyCHL7wxFjW9oqB9

Cheers.

Thanks for this. My band has decided to do this song so this is a timely gift.

jorgemncardoso · Post by **jorgemncardoso** » Sat May 30, 2015 10:32 am

You're welcome, glad it's usefull for you

BTW l, the sample is in the original D# key so if you need to play in a different key be sure to do a pitch shift on it but maintaining the same length (or time) so it sounds right. Mapping on the keyboard an playing on a different key will also alter the duration of the sample and may not sound right.

I've been building my Genesis / Peter Gabriel patch library, been searching through all my emulator II and III massive sample libraries and the fairlight ones also, it's a very laborious job but once in a while you find the actual samples used by our heroes and it's a joy when it happens

alanjpearson · Post by **alanjpearson** » Mon Jun 01, 2015 8:52 am

Thanks for posting.
I grabbed this from the CD but of course the "real thing" is better

We have played Sledgehammer several times in the past, though we are really an early era (Gabriel/Collins/Hackett) Genesis tribute.

Always nice to get a present

kaptainkeyboard · Post by **kaptainkeyboard** » Mon Jun 01, 2015 2:10 pm

Like Alan, I grabbed this from the CD and broke it down into 4 discreet samples and created a multisampke so the it was no longer tempo dependant and I could play it live (we don't use click tracks).
The real thing is so much better, but in a live environment I think it comes across pretty close.
It comes in around 3.20 in the following clip.

http://youtu.be/MDrx1apdZIE

jorgemncardoso · Post by **jorgemncardoso** » Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:43 pm

Great performance of the song

You are right, live it sounds great, I couldn't tell that it was taken from the cd, great work.

Actually Peter's keyboard player uses the beginning and the tail end of the sample live separate to make it look like a single sample (as they only used the beginning on the album) but one can tell it's two samples, and I think it sounds unnatural (especially because the front piece has heavy reverb, and the tail end is dry) I've joined both together, front and end, on the live version so the transition was smooth and added similar reverb to the end tail, so I think its smoother and more consistent now.

darksound10 · Post by **darksound10** » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:35 pm

Hello!! Does anybody still have this sample and can share it to me? I will be very VERY thankful. Regards!

Geoff Flynn · Post by **Geoff Flynn** » Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:07 am

Hector Space · Post by **Hector Space** » Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:14 am

We covered Sledgehammer a couple of years ago. I build a Kronos program from a copy of the original EII sample (I have an Oberheim DPX1 sample player that will play EII disks)

As far as I can tell there was only 1 original sample in that EII program, if you let it play out it covers all of the bits used on the original record.

I made a Kronos multi sample up from two Shaku samples taken from the DPX 1 one I pitched shifted without changing the length in Soundforge I then normalised them both so that they cover most keys without too much change in the vibrato and breath effects included in the sample. Just allowing the single sample to span the keys needed makes the lower keys produce very noticeable slowed vibrato - so it’s a common trick to use a waveform app to change the pitch without changing the length. This new sample can be used to cover the lower or higher notes in a multi sample to keep the instrument sounding more realistic.

The biggest issue with the Shaku is making it loud enough live to match the mix on the record. It doesn’t cut through the mix easily live. Which is OK at the start but in the solo you may as well play anything! Lol

Anyway I’m happy to share the Kronos files I made if there's anyone still interested pm me.
Cheers
Steve

Drummond · Post by **Drummond** » Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:53 pm

This video shows how that sample was played to create the sledgehammer flute riff https://youtu.be/tPuNbhJrpsk?t=109

timg11 · Post by **timg11** » Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:48 pm

I didn't get this in 2015 when first posted, now the original link is dead. Is this sample available anywhere else?

Hector Space · Post by **Hector Space** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 3:42 pm

timg11 wrote:I didn't get this in 2015 when first posted, now the original link is dead. Is this sample available anywhere else?

Hi
I've extracted the PCG and KMP/KSF files for the EII shakuhachi (sledgehammer fame) from my kronos.. There doesn't seem to be anywhere on here to post them!
If there is a place for these here pls let me know.
Cheers
Steve

afr · Post by **afr** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 7:56 pm

Here below

https://korg.shop/sound-libraries/krono ... exs26.html

timg11 wrote:I didn't get this in 2015 when first posted, now the
original link is dead. Is this sample available anywhere else?

FrankWahl · Post by **FrankWahl** » Thu Oct 06, 2022 2:26 pm

Or here (great!):
https://www.narfsounds.com/product-page ... oster-pack

Best regards
Frank

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