Current Alternatives to Radias

eowyn · Post by **eowyn** » Wed Jun 10, 2015 8:10 pm

How about Roland's System 1m? it has got similar flashy lights

Mutiny in Jonestown · Post by **Mutiny in Jonestown** » Wed Jun 10, 2015 8:33 pm

eowyn wrote:How about Roland's System 1m? it has got similar flashy lights

Just had a look and this should interface with my MS20m and be a great addition to the synth rack...Thanks

Steinberger · Post by **Steinberger** » Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:22 pm

I can confirm that it does indeed

Also, don't have any but Boomstars are very nice.
http://studioelectronics.com/media/revi ... Bstars.pdf

eowyn · Post by **eowyn** » Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:06 pm

Mutiny in Jonestown wrote:
eowyn wrote:How about Roland's System 1m? it has got similar flashy lights
Just had a look and this should interface with my MS20m and be a great addition to the synth rack...Thanks

haha, where do you get all that money for all those synths?

Mutiny in Jonestown · Post by **Mutiny in Jonestown** » Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:56 pm

eowyn wrote:
Mutiny in Jonestown wrote:
eowyn wrote:How about Roland's System 1m? it has got similar flashy lights
Just had a look and this should interface with my MS20m and be a great addition to the synth rack...Thanks
haha, where do you get all that money for all those synths?

Well, first of all I'm no spring chicken and bought my 1st kybd back in 1980

Also, you'll notice that most of those synths/kybds are on my "Past" not on my "Current" list, so I've almost always financed a new purchase by selling old stuff (at a huge loss of course

) If I'd have been able to hang on to all those synths I've owned I probably could have opened a kybd museum and charged admission, which I'm sure I'd use to buy more synths

eowyn · Post by **eowyn** » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:56 pm

yes, I saw your current/past list but to me I can't effort a radias, an ms20m plus a system 1m at the moment. that's why I'm asking. yeah I could buy them used - will have to check ebay more often

besides a synth museum would be quite worth it

Mutiny in Jonestown · Post by **Mutiny in Jonestown** » Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:02 pm

eowyn wrote:yes, I saw your current/past list but to me I can't effort a radias, an ms20m plus a system 1m at the moment. that's why I'm asking. yeah I could buy them used - will have to check ebay more often

besides a synth museum would be quite worth it

I hear you...over the course of my life I've gone through times when I could afford gear followed by years where I had to turn around and sell much of it off at a huge loss :wacky:

I actually bought the Radias used in 2012 online from a Guitar Center in Florida for $599 which I thought was an absolute steal! When I saw one for the 1st time back around 2005 I knew I wanted one to partner with my MS2000R but there was no way I could swing it financially. Took a few more years to be able to and I was amazed I found one for such a great price so I jumped on it. As far as the System 1m...There's a big difference between saying I'd like to buy one and somehow convincing my wife that I "need" one

Regarding the "synth museum" and my past kybds, I think they would make a decent collection (though no keyboard collection is really complete without a Mellotron and a MiniMoog or at least an ARP 2600). As I mentioned, I did a lot of horse trading so I'd sell what I had to get what I wanted

The only things I really regret letting go were the Taurus bass pedals (which I traded straight across for the Hammond M2) and the SCI Pro One. The Cat Octave would have been very cool to keep as well, though I bought it as a project for $25 because it didn't work properly (of course I convinced myself I could fix it but I couldn't

eowyn · Post by **eowyn** » Fri Jun 12, 2015 8:51 am

Mutiny in Jonestown wrote:There's a big difference between saying I'd like to buy one and somehow convincing my wife that I "need" one

haha yeah that's the crux. luckily I have to take the responsibility for myself and no one else. I wanted to go the hardware route because of the tangibility: I bought myself an ESX-1, Radias, a Kaoss Pad (all used but in fine condition), also some Volcas, a Monotribe and some other toys. But now I'm not so sure. It's nice to doodle around but I can't seem to get stuff done with them. Software Vsts seem to be more hassle free, don't cost as much and sometimes can do more. only downside is the lack of haptics - will have to meditate about that.

Mutiny in Jonestown · Post by **Mutiny in Jonestown** » Fri Jun 12, 2015 4:35 pm

eowyn wrote:
Mutiny in Jonestown wrote:There's a big difference between saying I'd like to buy one and somehow convincing my wife that I "need" one
haha yeah that's the crux. luckily I have to take the responsibility for myself and no one else. I wanted to go the hardware route because of the tangibility: I bought myself an ESX-1, Radias, a Kaoss Pad (all used but in fine condition), also some Volcas, a Monotribe and some other toys. But now I'm not so sure. It's nice to doodle around but I can't seem to get stuff done with them. Software Vsts seem to be more hassle free, don't cost as much and sometimes can do more. only downside is the lack of haptics - will have to meditate about that.

I did some stuff on the software route in the late 90's/early 00's (Nord Modular - a hybrid but all the serious fun was to be had with the software component, Gigasampler, Cubase, etc) and really missed the ability to play with knobs and sliders so I only go hardware now. I know the computer tools are much improved these days regarding things like latency, but I don't want to spend my time fixing computer configuration issues and making software packages play nice with each other...besides, I just think it's more fun to have that hardware thing going rather than interface to an image of an instrument with a clickpad/mouse/trackball/whatever

eowyn · Post by **eowyn** » Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:24 pm

yes I thought so. to each their own, right?

Mutiny in Jonestown · Post by **Mutiny in Jonestown** » Sun Jun 14, 2015 4:34 am

eowyn wrote:yes I thought so. to each their own, right?

Absolutely! That must be why there are so many different tools to choose from to make music

Mutiny in Jonestown · Post by **Mutiny in Jonestown** » Thu Jun 18, 2015 2:49 pm

Just wanted to post a thanks to eowyn for telling me about the System 1m...just put in my pre-order yesterday. Spent a lot of hours researching/deciding what would play better with my MS20m, a custom Eurorack modular with some sound mangling modules or the Roland System 1m...after considering price and watching some youtube vids I went with the 1m. Can't wait to plug it into my gear rack and hear what crazy stuff I can do with those patch cords

eowyn · Post by **eowyn** » Thu Jun 18, 2015 7:09 pm

you're welcome! I'm considering one myself to complement my radias. the formant stuff sounds cool and its lfo can do audio rate. only thing is I'm not so sure if I need one

before this one I looked at the mfb dominion but that beast is uber large and I don't have much space left on my desk