Any rumors on the next update?

DR.DR · Post by **DR.DR** » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:20 pm

I'm finding myself not really using the E2 as much as I thought. The synthesis engine is great, but without a song mode and a better step sequencer it just isn't worth sinking time into. I got the box to be self-standing, not to hook up another gizmo for the sequencing. Have there been any murmurs?

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Wed Sep 30, 2015 2:05 pm

Pygmy · Post by **Pygmy** » Wed Sep 30, 2015 5:42 pm

Zilch.

Ted3000 · Post by **Ted3000** » Wed Sep 30, 2015 7:03 pm

Novation is announcing a new standalone hardware Groovebox very shortly. (Novation Circuit) Looks like a launchpad with knobs. Drums, Synth, Ableton Live Lite, and FX.

Korg really should do something interesting with an update to get that spotlight back. The sub-$500 groovebox market is about to get some actual non-casio competition.

Loudest · Post by **Loudest** » Wed Sep 30, 2015 7:29 pm

great news! Competition! exactly what we need

Go KORG!

h.vel · Post by **h.vel** » Wed Sep 30, 2015 10:22 pm

No rumor? (Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015), here: http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... &start=105

HappyTed wrote:
SMK wrote:
HappyTed wrote:I see James Pulen is on that Facebook group saying that Korg will be annoyed that this has happened right when they "are in the middle of announcing an updated OS".

He also said that an official swappable OS was already planned but they were waiting until all of the features have been added.
Wait what???? When did he say that?

Link to the original post please. Thanks!
It's all on the Fb group comments...
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1587573334805635/

James Pullen Not that I think they will, but they can sue you into oblivion for doing this, especially as you've done it right in the middle of them launching the new sampler o.s.

James Pullen This guy did it right in the middle of a launch before we got a chance to offer the switch legitimately.

James Pullen It just means we didn't get the chance to implement it ourselves at what we thought woukd be the right time in a cleanly lisenced way for a fully updated and community-tested o.s.

James Pullen Im pretty sure they'll still update things and release their own switch patch once everything's been ironed out.

James Pullen It's the same device, obviously, just two different operating systems. It seemed worthwhile giving each operating system its own product launch to define it in its own right. The two systems are sufficiently different. A FW switch once both o.s. are fully updated would let people experience both in one machine, or be able to have two of each, or one of each, and swap around as needed.

Loudest · Post by **Loudest** » Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:32 pm

rumors?
it was once..

for now,
we are all punished

(for the hack)

Korg sulks

it's obvious now

DR.DR · Post by **DR.DR** » Thu Oct 01, 2015 1:02 am

I would happily spend (a lot) more, but I want battery power. I'm not aware of any nice machine that runs on battery besides MPC 500 (too simple by modern standards) and Beat Thing (One, I cannot use its proper name and respect myself as a human, and two, not the box for me). The DSI and Elektron boxes all require wall warts.

Anyhow, my draw to E2 is not monetary - I want sound control and no computer. Having a shitty sequencer means I need something else, and that sucks. I know there are EDM folks who interact with E2 - that is awesome for that genre - but I want to use it as the beat box from hell and play along live with my Wurlitzer + Moog - and I can't do that without a real song mode and a real step sequencer.

DR.DR · Post by **DR.DR** » Thu Oct 01, 2015 1:04 am

Sorry to kick a dead horse - but song mode and a sequencer are SO f*ck*ng SIMPLE compared to the implementation they've already done - why would you hinder a great box with the omission of simple features?

Nice to see the Novation Circuit brings.....

captain johnson · Post by **captain johnson** » Thu Oct 01, 2015 10:42 am

Song mode is now manual not automated in E2

SMK · Post by **SMK** » Thu Oct 01, 2015 12:23 pm

Ted3000 wrote: Novation Circuit

The sub-$500 groovebox market is about to get some actual non-casio competition.

Oh I wouldn't say that:

specifications
analogue modeled
4 part drum machine
32 velocity sensitive sequencer pads
6 voice polyphony
64 patches
step or live sequencing
128 steps of synth and drum pattern combinations
delay and reverb effects
2x line out on jacks, stereo minijack headphnes, USB & MIDI connection
can be run on batteries
about 24 by 20 cm in size

dschroeter · Post by **dschroeter** » Thu Oct 01, 2015 1:07 pm

This probably should have its own thread, but boy is the Circuit making my 'buggy' e2s look like a champ. The fading RGBs are a neat feature, but I can't imagine how one selects individual sounds or patterns efficiently without a screen. And remembering what the macro knobs do in each mode seems like a learning curve. And of course no sampling option. And two effects.

But the generic layout does trump the Korgs in one area: it is surely a better MIDI controller.

Loudest · Post by **Loudest** » Thu Oct 01, 2015 1:20 pm

dschroeter wrote:This probably should have its own thread, but boy is the Circuit making my 'buggy' e2s look like a champ. The fading RGBs are a neat feature, but I can't imagine how one selects individual sounds or patterns efficiently without a screen. And remembering what the macro knobs do in each mode seems like a learning curve. And of course no sampling option. And two effects.

But the generic layout does trump the Korgs in one area: it is surely a better MIDI controller.

I think exactly the same thing ... what a disappointment!
that's not what's going to worry KORG ....

I hoped some positive competition ...
but with such a product, KORG's still calm for quite a while.

captain johnson · Post by **captain johnson** » Thu Oct 01, 2015 4:24 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTuKnmNNjUs

defo good to see more units like this out there!

No wonder Korg got the E2 out early......reckon more companies are priming their efforts in the portable groovebox arena.

Bad news for elektron.

SMK · Post by **SMK** » Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:01 am

dschroeter wrote: the Circuit making my 'buggy' e2s look like a champ. The fading RGBs are a neat feature, but I can't imagine how one selects individual sounds or patterns efficiently without a screen. And remembering what the macro knobs do in each mode seems like a learning curve. And of course no sampling option. And two effects.

But the generic layout does trump the Korgs in one area: it is surely a better MIDI controller.

Well on HUGE limitation no one has noticed is the Circuit only allows for 6 parts; 4 drum parts and 2 synth. Against the Electribes "have it your way" 16 parts.

The Circuit is a great staring point for Novation. It's nice to see other companies attempt an Electribe type box.