Multi-sample Comparison PA4X, PA3X, PA3XLE, PA900, PA600

Thoraldus · Post by **Thoraldus** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:45 am

I've taken a bit of time and extracted all the multi-sample (ROM Samples) lists for the named keyboards. The numbers are ...

PA600 561
PA900 835
PA3xLE 838
PA3X 831
PA4x 1427

That's a huge jump for the PA4X. Here's an Excel file I cobbled up so you can compare the multi-sample layout between the keyboards. Should be handy for those of you who want to convert Factory or User Sounds from one machine to another.

Download Excel File

karmathanever · Post by **karmathanever** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:07 am

Thanks Rick - great

angelitto · Post by **angelitto** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:24 am

Very interesting. Thanks a lot.

alina · Post by **alina** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 12:30 pm

Great. Thanks Rick.

tkarlmann · Post by **tkarlmann** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:09 pm

You list 11 sounds for Grand Piano, isn't that one sound? Then I went into the Pa4x Manual, found a sound "Hichiriki" and searched for "Hichiriki" -- whatever that is -- and that sound is not in your list -- Excel cannot find it. Can you explain why your list differs from the Manual's .pdf?

Also, the spec blurbs for the Pa4x mention the unit has "over 1500 factory sounds". Who's right?

Thoraldus · Post by **Thoraldus** » Wed Nov 04, 2015 2:54 am

tkarlmann wrote:You list 11 sounds for Grand Piano, isn't that one sound? Then I went into the Pa4x Manual, found a sound "Hichiriki" and searched for "Hichiriki" -- whatever that is -- and that sound is not in your list -- Excel cannot find it. Can you explain why your list differs from the Manual's .pdf?

Also, the spec blurbs for the Pa4x mention the unit has "over 1500 factory sounds". Who's right?

There is a difference between Sounds and Samples. Sounds are made from ROM or RAM Samples. This Excel file is a comparison of the ROM Samples across the PA keyboards. If you open the Hichiriki sound in the Sound Editor you would find it is constructed of two layered sound samples, the Shakuhachi and Alto Sax p ... at least on my PA600 it is.

Nemik · Post by **Nemik** » Wed Nov 04, 2015 4:22 am

Thanks Rick .

nitecrawler · Post by **nitecrawler** » Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:01 am

Thank you Rick. Very informative stuff.

wma · Post by **wma** » Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:32 pm

would you please record the multi-samples of the pa4x & its waveform data through a good audio interface in high bit rate & depth so we can use them with a software sampler something like kontact?

Thoraldus · Post by **Thoraldus** » Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:35 pm

wma wrote:would you please record the multi-samples of the pa4x & its waveform data through a good audio interface in high bit rate & depth so we can use them with a software sampler something like kontact?

Sorry, but that would be patently illegal. Now, if you purchased your own PA4X and record the samples for your own use ...

I see you appear to be pretty new around here. Asking people here to to break copyright laws is a sure fire way to get yourself banned.

wma · Post by **wma** » Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:46 pm

i thought it's legally possible as the owner is recording the machines soundes via the external output audio ports/jacks and not hacking the entire rom chip to extract the sounds or some secured data

not meant to be illegal!

Thoraldus · Post by **Thoraldus** » Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:49 pm

wma wrote:i thought it's legally possible as the owner is recording the machines soundes via the external output audio ports/jacks and not hacking the entire rom chip to extract the sounds or some secured data

not meant to be illegal!

1: I do not have a PA4X ... yet.
2: It would be my (or anyone else) giving the samples to you that would be illegal, even if no money is involved.
3: Do you have any idea of the amount of work that would be involved to do this???

wma · Post by **wma** » Wed Nov 04, 2015 7:12 pm

half an hour?

thanks anyways for clarification

KONNECTORAS · Post by **KONNECTORAS** » Mon Nov 30, 2015 10:31 am

wma wrote:half an hour?

thanks anyways for clarification

Sampling sounds, even from a legally possesed copy -the keyboard is a legal one- IS unauthorised copying and breaks the end user agreement.

Even if you do this for yourself, IS illegal.

The amount of work to sample all the new multisamples is some days at least...
Then adda some days too for next level editing to make them playable...

KONNECTORAS · Post by **KONNECTORAS** » Mon Nov 30, 2015 10:59 am

Thoraldus wrote:I've taken a bit of time and extracted all the multi-sample (ROM Samples) lists for the named keyboards. The numbers are ...

PA600 561
PA900 835
PA3xLE 838
PA3X 831
PA4x 1427

That's a huge jump for the PA4X. Here's an Excel file I cobbled up so you can compare the multi-sample layout between the keyboards. Should be handy for those of you who want to convert Factory or User Sounds from one machine to another.

Download Excel File

Thumbs up dude!!!!!

I was thinking of doing this some time!!!
Thanks a lot!!!

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