Kronos Wish List!

jones · Post by **jones** » Thu Dec 03, 2015 3:03 am

media-igor wrote:
GregC wrote:
media-igor wrote:Yes, of course, be sure to be able to connect an external display! For example, I worked with Kronos in January, as a result I worsened my vision, which in the past was not very good. Now require glasses with more powerful diopters!

thats different. My eyes improved after using the Kronos.

I'm happy for you! I think that you are still young. I, too, when I was young, had good vision and unfortunately reckless about my health!

Health is wasted on youth, wealth is wasted on the aged.

geoelectro · Post by **geoelectro** » Thu Dec 03, 2015 2:04 pm

I would wish for the PAN in a Combi or SEQ to work differently on Stereo Samples.

On a mono sound it works as expected. However, on a stereo sample, I would expect it to work as a balance control between Left and Right. Instead, moving the PAN to the right, it drags the left channel over to the right and mixes them. If I PAN to the left, it drags the right channel to the left side and mixes the two.

I run Stems (backing tracks) from the Kronos. They come as stereo WAV files with "click" in the left and "track" in the right. Often, I need to adjust the balance between these two tracks. I have to convert the stereo Stem into two mono WAV's and then burn two slots in a Combi or Seq. This forces me to make two programs, one for each mono sound track.

If the PAN worked like a balance control when using stereo audio, it would improve my workflow immensely.

Geo

chini · Post by **chini** » Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:08 am

An age old wish this but a simple one that should have been implemented from day one!

As things stand if one wants to allow volume control of a timbre in a combie one has to check "all other controller messages" which of course is not ideal as one can not separate cc7 volume from anything else! Volume should be separate from other cc's just as damper (cc64) is and have its own dedicated check box.

amit · Post by **amit** » Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:23 am

If this wishlist includes kronos os software,

Please provide a shortcut for OK button on all pop ups.
like Enter + 5 or Enter + / . or enter + -.

If there already is a shortcut please en-lighen me as couldn't find that in guides.

danatkorg · Post by **danatkorg** » Fri Dec 04, 2015 4:14 pm

chini wrote:An age old wish this but a simple one that should have been implemented from day one!

As things stand if one wants to allow volume control of a timbre in a combie one has to check "all other controller messages" which of course is not ideal as one can not separate cc7 volume from anything else! Volume should be separate from other cc's just as damper (cc64) is and have its own dedicated check box.

Assign the pedal to expression (not volume), and use the check-box for pedal.

chini · Post by **chini** » Fri Dec 04, 2015 4:56 pm

danatkorg wrote:
chini wrote:An age old wish this but a simple one that should have been implemented from day one!

As things stand if one wants to allow volume control of a timbre in a combie one has to check "all other controller messages" which of course is not ideal as one can not separate cc7 volume from anything else! Volume should be separate from other cc's just as damper (cc64) is and have its own dedicated check box.
Assign the pedal to expression (not volume), and use the check-box for pedal.

Greetings Dan!

It's for external synths actually! I have already tried this approach and it doesn't work in the same way as cc7 in that cc11 tends to add or subtract from the volume already present in the external synths patch. There's no getting round this. It really should be something Korg address! cc7 is nearly always separately assignable on most synths - I don't know how Korg ever managed to miss this!

danatkorg · Post by **danatkorg** » Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:03 pm

chini wrote:
danatkorg wrote:
chini wrote:An age old wish this but a simple one that should have been implemented from day one!

As things stand if one wants to allow volume control of a timbre in a combie one has to check "all other controller messages" which of course is not ideal as one can not separate cc7 volume from anything else! Volume should be separate from other cc's just as damper (cc64) is and have its own dedicated check box.
Assign the pedal to expression (not volume), and use the check-box for pedal.
Greetings Dan!

It's for external synths actually! I have already tried this approach and it doesn't work in the same way as cc7 in that cc11 tends to add or subtract from the volume already present in the external synths patch.

Yes, that's the basic use of expression.

Perhaps it would be helpful for you to define exactly what you are attempting to do.

chini wrote:There's no getting round this. It really should be something Korg address! cc7 is nearly always separately assignable on most synths - I don't know how Korg ever managed to miss this!

Let me know what synths you are referring to. I'm not convinced that we're doing anything unusual in this regard.

chini · Post by **chini** » Sat Dec 05, 2015 9:33 am

HI Dan,

Here's a thread I started some time back relating to one of the problems generated by the lack of separate cc7 control...

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... highlight=

Another scenario... I have recently started reorganising the playability of some of my songs. Instead of constantly patch changing between verses and choruses etc I have started using the four available karma modules as selectable scene zones in a sequenced song (utilising Karma "inside/outside thru zones"). This enables me to organise my selection of different sounds as I progress through the performance of a song while having access to a much longer uninterrupted drum track backing. By switching through Karma scenes (with 4 possible selectable midi channel setups available ) one also effectively negates the normal limited single "track" live playback channel in sequence mode. By making full use of the inside/outside thru zone capability of Karma I am able to organise a lot of my songs this way switching through the karma scene buttons instead of patch changing a string of combies. It is not always possible to organise songs in this way as I also need to send patch changes between these scenes to my VoiceLive2 vocal effects (perhaps there is also a way of sending an auto patch change with a Karma scene button press ?...!) but it has certainly made those songs that were initially tricky to play in combie mode a lot easier to accomplish.

The issue... Inevitably my Kronos "song" patches are nearly always full to the brim with all timbre slots being occupied one way or another controlling the various selection of internal and external sounds throughout my rig. This means that sometimes I am forced to assign some of my external multi-timbral synths (Ensoniq Mr Rack, EMU Morpheus, Andromeda, Nord Lead 3r, Waldorf Qr, Oberheim Matrix 1000 x2) to the same midi channels as the internal Kronos timbres. This can lead to conflictions that need careful re-knitting where cc's are concerned! One problem arises when I need to control the internal timbres volume via a slider but do not wish to control the external one BUT DO WISH to send the external synth another specific controller message. Conversely sometimes I want to control the external synth via a slider but leave the Kronos timbre untouched. I also often want to control delicate pads/strings and such with a midi volume pedal. Sometimes it is not possible to use the volume pedal already plugged into my Roland A-50 hence my post regarding the attempted use of the Kronos foot pedal input!

Just to be clear: the Mr Rack does actually have CC7 filter functionality but all my other synths do not.

Another thing... I nearly always need to use one of the timbre slots to give note information to my TC-Helicon VoiceLive2 and VoiceLive Touch2 vocal fx boxes so that they produce the correct vocal harmonies when I have their patches programmed to follow the chords I am physically playing. Often again I am forced to assign my vocal fx units to the same midi channel as something else in a timbre slot. Unfortunately neither unit has a separate filter for cc7 so if I do assign them to a "double used" timbre slot it has to be one who's "all other controllers" filter is switched out as I don't want their volumes to be effected.

As I am sure you are aware now through our continued com on this forum I am an intensive Kronos user and one who perhaps stretches this superb instrument to its limits! However this particular omittance in its design has always puzzled me! Even my 26 year old Roland A-50 master keyboard has separately programable cc7 on a zone by zone basis!

I hope this all makes sense Dan!

lesbennett57 · Post by **lesbennett57** » Sun Dec 06, 2015 11:14 pm

I just wish it would load up faster

Corch · Post by **Corch** » Sun Dec 06, 2015 11:27 pm

lesbennett57 wrote:I just wish it would load up faster

True, but have you ever started up a Macbook Pro? That goes really really fast.... but then... then you have to start Mainstage, load aaaaaaalllllll the plug-ins and start-up your audio interface and its software....

I'm bettin' the Korg beats that

djcactus · Post by **djcactus** » Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:18 am

Corch wrote:
lesbennett57 wrote:I just wish it would load up faster
True, but have you ever started up a Macbook Pro? That goes really really fast.... but then... then you have to start Mainstage, load aaaaaaalllllll the plug-ins and start-up your audio interface and its software....

I'm bettin' the Korg beats that

I hate to be sassy but I have a Macbook Pro 2012 with a solid state drive and I can book up the computer, my DAW, and my favorite plug-ins with time to spare before a Kronos would be playable.

I love the kronos but that is just a reality I have to face

Corch · Post by **Corch** » Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:35 am

djcactus wrote:
Corch wrote:
lesbennett57 wrote:I just wish it would load up faster
True, but have you ever started up a Macbook Pro? That goes really really fast.... but then... then you have to start Mainstage, load aaaaaaalllllll the plug-ins and start-up your audio interface and its software....

I'm bettin' the Korg beats that
I hate to be sassy but I have a Macbook Pro 2012 with a solid state drive and I can book up the computer, my DAW, and my favorite plug-ins with time to spare before a Kronos would be playable.

I love the kronos but that is just a reality I have to face

Ok, I've got the same setup like you but you're talking about seconds faster then maybe. And still, you don't have all the plugins (only your favorites) whereas the Korg has loaded all the sounds and engines. That's a big difference.

But you're probably right haha. The MacBook will be faster with a close finish

danatkorg · Post by **danatkorg** » Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:01 pm

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danatkorg · Post by **danatkorg** » Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:53 pm

Hi Chini,

I appreciate your communicating in English, but it's a bit of a slog to try to understand specifically what you're looking for. As a suggestion, try to use about 1/10th the words of your previous response. Be specific and omit extraneous info. Still not clear (a) exactly what you're trying to do and (b) what synths have the functionality you're looking for and find missing in the Kronos.

Btw, no need to get tricky with Karma in order to select tracks in songs; Set List does that easily.

chini · Post by **chini** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 10:26 am

Hi Dan,

I am English! To be honest I must call Korg UK. I took a long time compiling my post here - to be honest its rather frustrating to explain in writing! Sorry for the confusion!

I see the patch change enquiry thing with a Karma scene change was indeed an extraneous and confusing mention! Sorry!

Plain and simply I just wish that cc7 had its own separate filter rather than only being assignable within the current "all other controllers" switch. That way I could organise my external sounds a lot easier. To try and explain here why it is a legitimate request may be a moot point and I should be speaking directly with Salo at the UK office which I will do next week! Apologies!

danatkorg wrote:Hi Chini,

I appreciate your communicating in English, but it's a bit of a slog to try to understand specifically what you're looking for. As a suggestion, try to use about 1/10th the words of your previous response. Be specific and omit extraneous info. Still not clear (a) exactly what you're trying to do and (b) what synths have the functionality you're looking for and find missing in the Kronos.

Btw, no need to get tricky with Karma in order to select tracks in songs; Set List does that easily.

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Kronos Wish List!

PAN operation with stereo sound files

Separate volume (cc7) midi filter

Re: Separate volume (cc7) midi filter

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Re: Separate volume (cc7) midi filter

lack of independent cc7 control scenarios

Re: lack of independent cc7 control scenarios

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