Hi,
Have gone through every step known to humankind trying to install, configure, recognize, set up the Minilogue to be recognized on my W10 PC as a MIDI I/O source, to no avail.
The Korg Setup utility finds and identifies the minilogue; the device shows up in device manager.
But it doesn't show up in the list of available MIDI inputs/outputs in my DAW or any software that otherwise recognizes a whole bunch of other such USB MIDI devices from other companies (which I just plug in, they configure, they run, it's magic.....).
Any tips? I've tried all the usual uninstalling/reinstalling, making sure not all sixteen possible devices are taken on the utility list, etc. etc. etc., restarting/rebooting computer, turning on/off minilogue....
This sways me to forget about trying to use the minilogue via MIDI USB and just staying, you know, entirely in the analogue realm.
I just spent an hour f___ing with a computer instead of making music. I absolutely hate that.
Any help appreciated, thanks.
Minilog USB MIDI on Windows 10 - latest Korg USB MIDI Driver
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We thought this was interesting ... for the Minillogue Download the “Korg USB-MIDI driver” from the Korg website, and install it as described in the accompanying documentation
Yet in the Minilogue download support area, a driver has not yet been posted like it is in the Kronos download area. Were did you get the driver?
Yet in the Minilogue download support area, a driver has not yet been posted like it is in the Kronos download area. Were did you get the driver?
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I had supposed that the Korg USB-MIDI driver was a pretty universal one (for Korg), so downloaded the one for the Korg Arp Odyssey from here:
http://www.korg.com/us/support/download ... /435/1356/
... but then, looking around, I see that it has to be updated to support new instruments. Hmmm.
I had also tried uninstalling it completely, rebooting, and then just connecting the Minilogue, and again, it was recognized, but still no joy.
I suppose since it's a very new instrument, it will have to await the programming gods for a specific update to the USB MIDI driver?
http://www.korg.com/us/support/download ... /435/1356/
... but then, looking around, I see that it has to be updated to support new instruments. Hmmm.
I had also tried uninstalling it completely, rebooting, and then just connecting the Minilogue, and again, it was recognized, but still no joy.
I suppose since it's a very new instrument, it will have to await the programming gods for a specific update to the USB MIDI driver?
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Cool, yea, the universal one might be the only one that is needed, but KORG has not but it into the support product area for the minilogue yet, or it might be product priority, not sure.
So we're real curious, how do you like the minilogue? How the keys feel? What do you think about all the options. Unlike the KARP, this one looks like it can be actually played from the Kronos via MIDI in/out if you don't like the mimislim keys.
We really wish they would have done that on the KARP. We don't get the mimi me's keys nor the MIDI in's. We get nostalgia and original, but not in the KARP's case, if the original only had MIDI in, cool, it also had regular KEYS ...
So we're real curious, how do you like the minilogue? How the keys feel? What do you think about all the options. Unlike the KARP, this one looks like it can be actually played from the Kronos via MIDI in/out if you don't like the mimislim keys.
We really wish they would have done that on the KARP. We don't get the mimi me's keys nor the MIDI in's. We get nostalgia and original, but not in the KARP's case, if the original only had MIDI in, cool, it also had regular KEYS ...
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Hi!
I heard back from Korg Product Support in the US, and apparently they will update the Windows USB-MIDI driver and utilities and add the Minilogue, and put it on the Support Page soon; so, that's great news.
As to the Minilogue itself: love it! It strikes out on its own path, sonically, and is refreshing, as it is obviously not trying to be just another analogue that is supposed to sound like a Moog or Odyssey or Prophet. It has its own, distinctive tonality. Clearly the designers have paid very close attention to putting together something new here.
I have had access over the years to a wide variety of interfaces, hardware and software, and I think the Minilogue does an excellent job of providing both a broad range of features, and an interesting selection of constraints.
I believe any instrument enforces the discipline of its own nature upon its musician, and the Minilogue provides very clear signals as to where the focus is in the design, and the experience of playing it.
Absolutely love the HPF/Time/Delay section; not just another integrated effect, it really feels like an intrinsic part of the overall signal path, that has a function as specific as the sections preceding it (oscillator/filter). I also appreciate the absence of worrying about a wet/dry setting. The Time/Feedback choices, and the HPF, take care of that in a different way, along with the pre- and post-filter selection switches.
As to the modulation options: I think people will be tricked at first, worrying about "one LFO" and such things, but in reality, combine the variety of modulation control options on the ingenious slider stick on the left, and the ways the LFO and EG interact with each other, and the way both those then interact with, for instance, the "modulation sequencer" built into the sequencer section, and again, you really have a huge set of possibilities that are unique to the architecture of this synthesizer. What seems to be "missing" (like sample and hold on the LFO) shows up as a variant in the connection between these modulation possibilities, and introduces something new this way.
There's a lot more to talk about; I like the keys, they are correct for a synthesizer that's not trying to be an organ or piano, and I'm fine with using them, even though I have full-scale keyboards I can easily use via the MIDI port if I want. I like the overall feel of the instrument, its materials, its knobs, its look and heft.
I think Korg could offer custom knob sets of different designs, and owners of the synth would buy them, if it's not too much stress to replace the knobs at home. The default knobs, while looking clean, are a bit difficult to see the settings on, except in bright light, since they are completely black.
Everyone will have this or that they want on the synth. I have two things I'm curious about as possible additions:
1. Since this would be an excellent synth for a beginner (I'm not, but would still find this useful!), I think having some way to look at all the settings in a patch -- like Roland's "shift+knob/slider" function on the synths they make with lots of knobs and sliders, they called it "Temporary Scope" on the JP-8000, a decade or so ago -- would be an excellent addition. You can sort of do this by setting the knobs to Catch instead of Jump, but it's still a bit clunky to do it that way. Korg could simply (hah! I know nothing about the code for the synth) add a capability to the Shift button that would display a value on the screen for current setting whenever you combined Shift with moving a knob, or tapping a lever/button. If that were possible, that would be great.
2. There's been some discussion of a click/"fuff" sound in the attack, I don't think it has to do with the amp envelope, though I mistook it for that at first. You can set the attack and release high (around 30) and still get it in some patches, or in the Init patch. To use Preset 002, "PWM Strings" as a specific example, if you hit a note or chord, you don't hear it; but if you hit _another_ note while the waveform in the oscilloscope is still active for the first note or chord you hit, you'll hear the sound. It sounds to me like the kind of sound you'd get interrupting a sample waveform by triggering it at a non-zero point on a sample-based synth, which this is obviously not. It sometimes seems to have to do with LFO Voice Sync; you can turn that off in Preset 002 and it lessens it. It is also lessened in that patch by dropping the INT to a lower setting, which of course also removes the pulse width modulation. I thought maybe it had to do with the LFO pushing the PW on square waves on the OSCs into the maximum pulse zone, which can also cause a glitch sound on an analogue synth, but changing the Shape knobs didn't seem to affect the sound, so not sure that's relevant. It's all fun to explore, in any event! I am almost at the point where I'm getting used to this sound and would miss it if it were "fixed," but it may cause some head-scratching, like I'm doing here. It's most noticeable in Poly mode, less so in Mono voice allocation mode.
If there were an added menu option to turn this click/"fuff" on or off in the menus, instead of removing it entirely, that would be great. Perhaps it's as simple as someone having overlooked some detail on one of the LFO Sync settings therein, I just don't know.
Absolutely love the multiple voice allocation modes selectable per patch; this gives you a lot of variety with the default factory presets to start out with, trying each one with each voice allocation scheme, as a simple way to begin.
As to the tone, it is a very beautiful-sounding instrument, that also does great noise sounds and crisp, resonant bass. The filter obviously has its own, unique tonal character; it's neither Moog Ladder nor Sallen-Key multimode, nor even Korg Arp Odyssey Mk. III setting, though info out there says it's closest to the latter. It takes getting used to, as it gets very resonant very fast, as you turn the resonance knob, which is great for percussion and sound effects. It drops the volume on the sound quickly, as resonance starts to be added (which in some cases could be a very good thing, keeping speakers from burning out!), so you have to learn to compensate for that, but that's manageable.
I think the presets belie much greater tonal range on the synth; many of them are quite reminiscent of sounds from the Radias/M3, in my opinion (I even thought I vaguely recognized a few from back then!), which is great, as it proves this analogue synth can do more modern and recent kinds of synth sounds (i.e. non-vintage, if you take vintage as 70's/80's); but also misleading, as you can really get some classic vintage sound out of the Minilogue, too. I'm enjoying playing with some "cookbooks" of classic preset sounds I've found around the web, for some synths from the '80's and early '90's (visual drawings of settings), and the end results are just as vintage-sounding (within limits, of course, with this synth's own architecture) as you might imagine.
Aside from all that, though, I'd say the Minilogue has more delicacy than punch, if that makes any sense. It can be made to sound aggressive, but pluck, bell, guitar, flute-like sounds are closer to its sweet spots. Early on I made a patch I named "Les Paul" (I erased it, to make it ephemeral, after saving it, yes, call me crazy), because it really had that 50's Hawaiian electric slack-key guitar sound to it, amazing -- happened upon it by pure accident while tweaking, almost, and using the delay.
If you don't try to force yourself down the path of making it sound vintage analogue, there are so many different places you can go with the Minilogue, all of them fascinating and fresh. I look forward to further exploration.
Sorry for being long-winded, just trying to articulate things that aren't easy to describe!
I heard back from Korg Product Support in the US, and apparently they will update the Windows USB-MIDI driver and utilities and add the Minilogue, and put it on the Support Page soon; so, that's great news.
As to the Minilogue itself: love it! It strikes out on its own path, sonically, and is refreshing, as it is obviously not trying to be just another analogue that is supposed to sound like a Moog or Odyssey or Prophet. It has its own, distinctive tonality. Clearly the designers have paid very close attention to putting together something new here.
I have had access over the years to a wide variety of interfaces, hardware and software, and I think the Minilogue does an excellent job of providing both a broad range of features, and an interesting selection of constraints.
I believe any instrument enforces the discipline of its own nature upon its musician, and the Minilogue provides very clear signals as to where the focus is in the design, and the experience of playing it.
Absolutely love the HPF/Time/Delay section; not just another integrated effect, it really feels like an intrinsic part of the overall signal path, that has a function as specific as the sections preceding it (oscillator/filter). I also appreciate the absence of worrying about a wet/dry setting. The Time/Feedback choices, and the HPF, take care of that in a different way, along with the pre- and post-filter selection switches.
As to the modulation options: I think people will be tricked at first, worrying about "one LFO" and such things, but in reality, combine the variety of modulation control options on the ingenious slider stick on the left, and the ways the LFO and EG interact with each other, and the way both those then interact with, for instance, the "modulation sequencer" built into the sequencer section, and again, you really have a huge set of possibilities that are unique to the architecture of this synthesizer. What seems to be "missing" (like sample and hold on the LFO) shows up as a variant in the connection between these modulation possibilities, and introduces something new this way.
There's a lot more to talk about; I like the keys, they are correct for a synthesizer that's not trying to be an organ or piano, and I'm fine with using them, even though I have full-scale keyboards I can easily use via the MIDI port if I want. I like the overall feel of the instrument, its materials, its knobs, its look and heft.
I think Korg could offer custom knob sets of different designs, and owners of the synth would buy them, if it's not too much stress to replace the knobs at home. The default knobs, while looking clean, are a bit difficult to see the settings on, except in bright light, since they are completely black.
Everyone will have this or that they want on the synth. I have two things I'm curious about as possible additions:
1. Since this would be an excellent synth for a beginner (I'm not, but would still find this useful!), I think having some way to look at all the settings in a patch -- like Roland's "shift+knob/slider" function on the synths they make with lots of knobs and sliders, they called it "Temporary Scope" on the JP-8000, a decade or so ago -- would be an excellent addition. You can sort of do this by setting the knobs to Catch instead of Jump, but it's still a bit clunky to do it that way. Korg could simply (hah! I know nothing about the code for the synth) add a capability to the Shift button that would display a value on the screen for current setting whenever you combined Shift with moving a knob, or tapping a lever/button. If that were possible, that would be great.
2. There's been some discussion of a click/"fuff" sound in the attack, I don't think it has to do with the amp envelope, though I mistook it for that at first. You can set the attack and release high (around 30) and still get it in some patches, or in the Init patch. To use Preset 002, "PWM Strings" as a specific example, if you hit a note or chord, you don't hear it; but if you hit _another_ note while the waveform in the oscilloscope is still active for the first note or chord you hit, you'll hear the sound. It sounds to me like the kind of sound you'd get interrupting a sample waveform by triggering it at a non-zero point on a sample-based synth, which this is obviously not. It sometimes seems to have to do with LFO Voice Sync; you can turn that off in Preset 002 and it lessens it. It is also lessened in that patch by dropping the INT to a lower setting, which of course also removes the pulse width modulation. I thought maybe it had to do with the LFO pushing the PW on square waves on the OSCs into the maximum pulse zone, which can also cause a glitch sound on an analogue synth, but changing the Shape knobs didn't seem to affect the sound, so not sure that's relevant. It's all fun to explore, in any event! I am almost at the point where I'm getting used to this sound and would miss it if it were "fixed," but it may cause some head-scratching, like I'm doing here. It's most noticeable in Poly mode, less so in Mono voice allocation mode.
If there were an added menu option to turn this click/"fuff" on or off in the menus, instead of removing it entirely, that would be great. Perhaps it's as simple as someone having overlooked some detail on one of the LFO Sync settings therein, I just don't know.
Absolutely love the multiple voice allocation modes selectable per patch; this gives you a lot of variety with the default factory presets to start out with, trying each one with each voice allocation scheme, as a simple way to begin.
As to the tone, it is a very beautiful-sounding instrument, that also does great noise sounds and crisp, resonant bass. The filter obviously has its own, unique tonal character; it's neither Moog Ladder nor Sallen-Key multimode, nor even Korg Arp Odyssey Mk. III setting, though info out there says it's closest to the latter. It takes getting used to, as it gets very resonant very fast, as you turn the resonance knob, which is great for percussion and sound effects. It drops the volume on the sound quickly, as resonance starts to be added (which in some cases could be a very good thing, keeping speakers from burning out!), so you have to learn to compensate for that, but that's manageable.
I think the presets belie much greater tonal range on the synth; many of them are quite reminiscent of sounds from the Radias/M3, in my opinion (I even thought I vaguely recognized a few from back then!), which is great, as it proves this analogue synth can do more modern and recent kinds of synth sounds (i.e. non-vintage, if you take vintage as 70's/80's); but also misleading, as you can really get some classic vintage sound out of the Minilogue, too. I'm enjoying playing with some "cookbooks" of classic preset sounds I've found around the web, for some synths from the '80's and early '90's (visual drawings of settings), and the end results are just as vintage-sounding (within limits, of course, with this synth's own architecture) as you might imagine.
Aside from all that, though, I'd say the Minilogue has more delicacy than punch, if that makes any sense. It can be made to sound aggressive, but pluck, bell, guitar, flute-like sounds are closer to its sweet spots. Early on I made a patch I named "Les Paul" (I erased it, to make it ephemeral, after saving it, yes, call me crazy), because it really had that 50's Hawaiian electric slack-key guitar sound to it, amazing -- happened upon it by pure accident while tweaking, almost, and using the delay.
If you don't try to force yourself down the path of making it sound vintage analogue, there are so many different places you can go with the Minilogue, all of them fascinating and fresh. I look forward to further exploration.
Sorry for being long-winded, just trying to articulate things that aren't easy to describe!
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Wow, OUTSTANDING review, thank you. In a way, "It has it's own, distinctive tonality" is also how we feel about the Mother-32's. Outside of the SEQ, the mother also has bright current/future sounding edge to it
Man, KORG should pay you for this review cause now ya got me leaning towards one.... We have three Mothers on the way this week, now we're thinking, maybe changing the order to two and ordering the Mini...., Mother, Mini, Mother, Mini gonna be a long week of decisions.
I did see the YouTube video on the "clipping" sound. The reviewer also had three Mothers next to the mini which we thought was cool, anyway they brought a point up that this might be a firmware fix in the future. I hope someone at NAMM brings this up.
Finally, your review was not long winded at all, it was perfect, thanks!!!
Man, KORG should pay you for this review cause now ya got me leaning towards one...
. We have three Mothers on the way this week, now we're thinking, maybe changing the order to two and ordering the Mini...., Mother, Mini, Mother, Mini gonna be a long week of decisions.I did see the YouTube video on the "clipping" sound. The reviewer also had three Mothers next to the mini which we thought was cool, anyway they brought a point up that this might be a firmware fix in the future. I hope someone at NAMM brings this up.
Finally, your review was not long winded at all, it was perfect, thanks!!!
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realtrance, that was about the best, most complete, most honest review I've yet read of the minilogue. Well done. I've had mine since last Friday and I completely agree with every word you wrote.
I finally dug into the cross mod and ring mod tonight, and that was a revelation. That's the beginning (in combination with other stuff like Voice Depth) of getting some really brutal sounds that I was beginning to think weren't possible. I'm also fining all sorts of little tricks in live play, like switching Voice Modes, or switching back and forth between two identical programs to "jump" back to the original sound at just the right time (with no interruption due to the pattern switch).
Point is: there is a lot of exploration and discovery to be had in the minilogue. Menu diving in other synths can be slow and tedious and discourage that process. minilogue's interface really encourages it, and it's rewarding.
Now I'm just trying to convince myself not to run out and get the Volca Beats and Bass as companions. The portability and compatibility is tempting, especially for live jamming.
I finally dug into the cross mod and ring mod tonight, and that was a revelation. That's the beginning (in combination with other stuff like Voice Depth) of getting some really brutal sounds that I was beginning to think weren't possible. I'm also fining all sorts of little tricks in live play, like switching Voice Modes, or switching back and forth between two identical programs to "jump" back to the original sound at just the right time (with no interruption due to the pattern switch).
Point is: there is a lot of exploration and discovery to be had in the minilogue. Menu diving in other synths can be slow and tedious and discourage that process. minilogue's interface really encourages it, and it's rewarding.
Now I'm just trying to convince myself not to run out and get the Volca Beats and Bass as companions. The portability and compatibility is tempting, especially for live jamming.
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Thanks both! Just trying to help. If Korg would now send me a Kronos Platinum, I wouldn't mind, though! [and a pony!] <g>
Anyways yes, rsaintjohn, that's one thing I forgot to mention: being able to do cross mod and ring mod and sync separately or all together is also really cool. All the classic things you can do with ring mod and two triangle waves are here for bell-like sounds, and all three with the wave shaper knobs on the VCOs goes brutal and noisy, especially with judicious use of the 12 db/octave filter setting.
Bravo to Korg for making this!
HoS, that's a tough choice; the Mother 32s are also excellent. I like the direction Moog is going there.
Really it's quite the Golden Age for affordable analogue synthesis, a real, historic breakthrough all around. I am amazed and glad to have lived to see it!
Anyways yes, rsaintjohn, that's one thing I forgot to mention: being able to do cross mod and ring mod and sync separately or all together is also really cool. All the classic things you can do with ring mod and two triangle waves are here for bell-like sounds, and all three with the wave shaper knobs on the VCOs goes brutal and noisy, especially with judicious use of the 12 db/octave filter setting.
Bravo to Korg for making this!
HoS, that's a tough choice; the Mother 32s are also excellent. I like the direction Moog is going there.
Really it's quite the Golden Age for affordable analogue synthesis, a real, historic breakthrough all around. I am amazed and glad to have lived to see it!
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Okay, updated both driver and Minilogue, driver to latest one from Korg supporting Minilogue, Minilogue to 1.04.
The Minilogue installs properly as a USB device (using the Korg Utilities that come with the driver) under Windows 10. I can find it under Device Manager. All the info on it there confirms it's installed properly.
BUT: it will not show up as a MIDI device in any DAW or other software that has a list of connected devices that can be used for MIDI I/O!
It is identified as USB 1.1 in the Korg utilities. I've tried various different USB ports (not connected to a powered hub, I know that can be an issue); I've tried uninstalling/reinstalling the Korg USB/MIDI driver. I have the Minilogue set to USB only for MIDI (as recommended in the manual).
No dice. It shows up fine on my ol' Mac Laptop, just not under Windows 10.
Am I missing something obvious here? I know, searching back to 2010 and Windows XP-land, that there were issues then with some version of DirectX, but I'd imagine in the five ensuing years there's been some improvement on that front? <G>
If this rings any bells, please chime in.
UPDATE: This is the infamous "running out of virtual MIDI ports" issue in Windows.
Used the Korg Uninstall MIDI Device utility to delete a bunch of registry entries identifying other devices I've connected/disconnected, and it freed up "room" for the Minilogue to make its appearance.
The Minilogue installs properly as a USB device (using the Korg Utilities that come with the driver) under Windows 10. I can find it under Device Manager. All the info on it there confirms it's installed properly.
BUT: it will not show up as a MIDI device in any DAW or other software that has a list of connected devices that can be used for MIDI I/O!
It is identified as USB 1.1 in the Korg utilities. I've tried various different USB ports (not connected to a powered hub, I know that can be an issue); I've tried uninstalling/reinstalling the Korg USB/MIDI driver. I have the Minilogue set to USB only for MIDI (as recommended in the manual).
No dice. It shows up fine on my ol' Mac Laptop, just not under Windows 10.
Am I missing something obvious here? I know, searching back to 2010 and Windows XP-land, that there were issues then with some version of DirectX, but I'd imagine in the five ensuing years there's been some improvement on that front? <G>
If this rings any bells, please chime in.
UPDATE: This is the infamous "running out of virtual MIDI ports" issue in Windows.
Used the Korg Uninstall MIDI Device utility to delete a bunch of registry entries identifying other devices I've connected/disconnected, and it freed up "room" for the Minilogue to make its appearance.
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It's insanity-making, isn't it?
What I finally found out, with help from someone knowledgeable, is two things:
1. First, update to the latest version of the Korg USB-MIDI driver utilities, on the Minilogue support page now.
2. Do the following:
a) read the instructions that come with the utility carefully
b) next, unintuitively: in the Korg Utilities, select "Uninstall Korg USB-MIDI Device" (no, you're not uninstalling the MIDI-USB driver you just installed, don't worry!)
c) click the Option button
d) untick the check mark that by default only lets you uninstall Korg MIDI devices (this is to prevent you from uninstalling other MIDI devices you may have installed on your system)
e) Now: be SURE you know, in the list of MIDI devices you can remove, which ones you actually use, and which ones are "residue" in your Windows registry from previous installs/uninstalls.
f) The critical step: REMOVE all the MIDI devices, including any associated with the Minilogue, from the list. What this does is delete them from the Windows registry.
g) Next: run the "Install Korg USB-MIDI Device" in the Korg MIDI-USB utilities, with your Minilogue connected
h) NOW you can properly add the Minilogue as a USB-MIDI device.
The problem, as I understand it, is that once Windows fills up with 16 entries for MIDI devices in the registry, it gets sick and can't add any more, and so enough have to be removed to add any new ones.
This is the way to do it.
Hope that helps! Some day, it will all be perfect.
What I finally found out, with help from someone knowledgeable, is two things:
1. First, update to the latest version of the Korg USB-MIDI driver utilities, on the Minilogue support page now.
2. Do the following:
a) read the instructions that come with the utility carefully
b) next, unintuitively: in the Korg Utilities, select "Uninstall Korg USB-MIDI Device" (no, you're not uninstalling the MIDI-USB driver you just installed, don't worry!)
c) click the Option button
d) untick the check mark that by default only lets you uninstall Korg MIDI devices (this is to prevent you from uninstalling other MIDI devices you may have installed on your system)
e) Now: be SURE you know, in the list of MIDI devices you can remove, which ones you actually use, and which ones are "residue" in your Windows registry from previous installs/uninstalls.
f) The critical step: REMOVE all the MIDI devices, including any associated with the Minilogue, from the list. What this does is delete them from the Windows registry.
g) Next: run the "Install Korg USB-MIDI Device" in the Korg MIDI-USB utilities, with your Minilogue connected
h) NOW you can properly add the Minilogue as a USB-MIDI device.
The problem, as I understand it, is that once Windows fills up with 16 entries for MIDI devices in the registry, it gets sick and can't add any more, and so enough have to be removed to add any new ones.
This is the way to do it.
Hope that helps! Some day, it will all be perfect.
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>>The problem, as I understand it, is that once Windows fills up<<
Soooooo in a past life we were an MCSE ... and we found another work around for this back in the day ... buy a MAC ..., sorry, i couldn't help myself
Kudo's to you for your perseverance and sharing the solution!!!
Soooooo in a past life we were an MCSE ... and we found another work around for this back in the day ... buy a MAC ...
, sorry, i couldn't help myselfKudo's to you for your perseverance and sharing the solution!!!
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Vondragonnoggin
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Yeah, lots of korg controllers previously and have the uninstall korg usb-midi device already. It even shows "minilogue (connected)" in the list. Shows up in device manager. In config of update utility program can pick minilogue midi in or minilogue sound and minilogue out or minilogue kbd/knob, but when specifying minilogue in and minilogue out, it still shows up as device not connected.
I also tried using copperlan virtual midi connected. In Copperlan the minilogue usb-midi in and usb-midi out show up as available to connect virtual midi cables to, then in update utility can pick vmidi1 and vmidi2 (minilogue midi in and midi out respectively, then uncheck use korg driver and then gets error of "minilogue not in update mode" when it clearly is as it says "version up mode" on minilogue display.
Tried over two hours uninstalling and reinstalling and trying various setups and nothing works. No other USB devices connected and Korg Uninstall USB-midi utility only shows the one minilogue (connected) in it.
Windows 10 home on acer laptop.
I also tried using copperlan virtual midi connected. In Copperlan the minilogue usb-midi in and usb-midi out show up as available to connect virtual midi cables to, then in update utility can pick vmidi1 and vmidi2 (minilogue midi in and midi out respectively, then uncheck use korg driver and then gets error of "minilogue not in update mode" when it clearly is as it says "version up mode" on minilogue display.
Tried over two hours uninstalling and reinstalling and trying various setups and nothing works. No other USB devices connected and Korg Uninstall USB-midi utility only shows the one minilogue (connected) in it.
Windows 10 home on acer laptop.
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realtrance
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Do you have more than 16 MIDI devices listed by the Korg uninstall utility?
If so, that's your problem -- Windows (XP to 10, it's never improved!) chokes on more than 16 devices present in the registry (worst software idea ever invented, that registry thing), and unless you remove enough to allow two more to be added (i.e. you should have no more than 14, either existing or previous, entries)... the Minilogue doesn't show up.
You may have entries in the registry from previous install attempts, too, that are blocking recognition of the Minilogue. Clear out as much as you can, safely, given the instructions above.
If you've done that and it still isn't "taking," I'd take the advice of that former MCSE up-thread, and buy a Mac! <G>
More seriously, I'm out of ideas I can help you with if that's the case, I'm sorry.
... the only other thing I can think of, I had this problem with an Ultranova and the included USB Audio/MIDI drivers a few years back... see if you can find a different USB port to use. Sounds like you're on an Acer laptop? It's possible there's some sort of USB mystery, power, or conflict, or address being shared with another device, or I/O port... the mysteries of how W10 handles USB functionality allocation is a bit beyond me, unfortunately. I solved my Ultranova problem by using a different USB port, why that worked (no USB hub, power was plenty, I/O ports in device manager/registry were unique, etc. etc.) was never something I pinned down, but it did. Sometimes if you have a device that's being identified as USB 1.1 rather than USB 2.0 or 3.0 (which is the case with the Korg driver for the Minilogue), that can lead to issues, which was part of the problem for the Ultranova (on my system, at least, at the time).
If so, that's your problem -- Windows (XP to 10, it's never improved!) chokes on more than 16 devices present in the registry (worst software idea ever invented, that registry thing), and unless you remove enough to allow two more to be added (i.e. you should have no more than 14, either existing or previous, entries)... the Minilogue doesn't show up.
You may have entries in the registry from previous install attempts, too, that are blocking recognition of the Minilogue. Clear out as much as you can, safely, given the instructions above.
If you've done that and it still isn't "taking," I'd take the advice of that former MCSE up-thread, and buy a Mac! <G>
More seriously, I'm out of ideas I can help you with if that's the case, I'm sorry.
... the only other thing I can think of, I had this problem with an Ultranova and the included USB Audio/MIDI drivers a few years back... see if you can find a different USB port to use. Sounds like you're on an Acer laptop? It's possible there's some sort of USB mystery, power, or conflict, or address being shared with another device, or I/O port... the mysteries of how W10 handles USB functionality allocation is a bit beyond me, unfortunately. I solved my Ultranova problem by using a different USB port, why that worked (no USB hub, power was plenty, I/O ports in device manager/registry were unique, etc. etc.) was never something I pinned down, but it did. Sometimes if you have a device that's being identified as USB 1.1 rather than USB 2.0 or 3.0 (which is the case with the Korg driver for the Minilogue), that can lead to issues, which was part of the problem for the Ultranova (on my system, at least, at the time).