KRONOS Polyphony Problems

GregC · Post by **GregC** » Sat Jan 30, 2016 8:36 pm

NIO0850 wrote:You are a troll.. Im waiting for the Kronos Successor. You can stick that Yamaha where the sun doesnt shine. Good thing it has a super knob.... lol

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are you done, yet ?

NIO0850 · Post by **NIO0850** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 4:27 pm

Really ?

GregC wrote:
NIO0850 wrote:You are a troll.. Im waiting for the Kronos Successor. You can stick that Yamaha where the sun doesnt shine. Good thing it has a super knob.... lol

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BobTheDog · Post by **BobTheDog** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 6:55 pm

GregC wrote:
NIO0850 wrote:You are a troll.. Im waiting for the Kronos Successor. You can stick that Yamaha where the sun doesnt shine. Good thing it has a super knob.... lol

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are you done, yet ?

unfortunately probably not.

Dniss · Post by **Dniss** » Mon Feb 01, 2016 1:01 am

NIO0850 wrote:Have you ever seen inside of a Kronos? It looks like $500 of production cost.

What you see inside in terms of hardware is not a testimony of what a Kronos is or the R&D involved.

StephenKay · Post by **StephenKay** » Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:24 am

NIO0850 wrote:Have you ever seen inside of a Kronos? It looks like $500 of production cost.

For that matter, have you ever seen the inside of an iPhone or iPad? It's not the sum of the parts that determines value - it's the software and what the company can make it do for you that determines a fair value for the item.

Pepperpotty · Post by **Pepperpotty** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:35 am

NIO0850,

We don't have many rules on this forum but it's just basic forum etiquette really. You don't come on here and try and cause arguments by offending our long standing members.

You're talking to members who have many, many years experience on this forum of helping people out. Show some respect please.

Of course you're entitled to your own opinion but if someone disagrees with you then you don't call them a troll.

Either drop this now or you can go and find yourself another forum to frequent.

Pep.

NIO0850 · Post by **NIO0850** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:53 pm

Earlier in this thread 3 of your long time members called me a troll making several personal attacks against me. So when Im in here just stating my opinion, on topic you publicly call me out? Really

You need to read the whole thread and warn those attacking new people that just joined. Just because a forum newbie isnt waving Korg flags and eating Korg cake doesnt mean all the forum members and mod jump in attack.

Pepperpotty wrote:NIO0850,

We don't have many rules on this forum but it's just basic forum etiquette really. You don't come on here and try and cause arguments by offending our long standing members.

You're talking to members who have many, many years experience on this forum of helping people out. Show some respect please.

Of course you're entitled to your own opinion but if someone disagrees with you then you don't call them a troll.

Either drop this now or you can go and find yourself another forum to frequent.

Pep.

Pepperpotty · Post by **Pepperpotty** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:59 pm

According to Wiki a troll is.....

"In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into ..."

I don't think the other forum members were out of line there.

Sorry but you're trying to cause arguments and slating a synth just for the sake of it. You can't expect to come to a forum as a new member and shout out about how bad a synth is and not expect some backlash when your claims are unwarranted.

Pep

NIO0850 · Post by **NIO0850** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:02 pm

I am 100% on topic because I also had the same issue and why I sold mine. Thats not bad to say. Im exicited to own another Korg. I cant wait for what is next.

My Kronos was and excellent synth. I had polyphony issues with the big piano samples. I believe the netbook mainboard and atom cpu 32bit doesnt have the power to full do what Korgs trying to do with it. It needs to be current 64bit with 16gb of ram possibly fix the issues I was having. Im just jumping off the Kronos wagon saving for the Successor.

Pepperpotty wrote:According to Wiki a troll is.....

"In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into ..."

I don't think the other forum members were out of line there.

Sorry but you're trying to cause arguments and slating a synth just for the sake of it. You can't expect to come to a forum as a new member and shout out about how bad a synth is and not expect some backlash when your claims are unwarranted.

Pep

NormC · Post by **NormC** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:50 pm

The Atom Processor used is an x86-64 bit processor. The "problem" is the 32 bit Linux Kernel they are using. They could implement a PAE and address more memory if they chose.

GregC · Post by **GregC** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:33 pm

NormC wrote:The Atom Processor used is an x86-64 bit processor. The "problem" is the 32 bit Linux Kernel they are using. They could implement a PAE and address more memory if they chose.

lets connect the dots more.

does this involve or presume more sophisticated software development ? Software development/programming is always the biggest cost of these embedded type devices

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 4:08 pm

Honestly, I keep saying this, but the only reason this even comes up is because the Kronos' internals resemble a common PC so much. You don't see the same kinds of complaints about the Motif, simply because it doesn't have a Mobo with "Intel" printed on it.

Treat the Kronos like a synth and most of these misgivings will be void.

I'll also be hoping for a higher performance model somewhere in the coming years. But it's not going to be top shelf performing PC hardware, ever. Even disregarding cost, if they just did custom software development, stability testing and mass production they'd be years behind the most current hardware releases. It's amazing that they used hardware as recent as they did. This is not Windows, that you can slap on basically any random configuration of hardware and it will boot (and then gets crap for not being 100 percent stable 24/7).

GregC · Post by **GregC** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 4:29 pm

SanderXpander wrote:Honestly, I keep saying this, but the only reason this even comes up is because the Kronos' internals resemble a common PC so much. You don't see the same kinds of complaints about the Motif, simply because it doesn't have a Mobo with "Intel" printed on it.

Treat the Kronos like a synth and most of these misgivings will be void.

I'll also be hoping for a higher performance model somewhere in the coming years. But it's not going to be top shelf performing PC hardware, ever. Even disregarding cost, if they just did custom software development, stability testing and mass production they'd be years behind the most current hardware releases. It's amazing that they used hardware as recent as they did. This is not Windows, that you can slap on basically any random configuration of hardware and it will boot (and then gets crap for not being 100 percent stable 24/7).

All solid and reasonable points.

Its a wrong assumption that the numerous key components of a Kronos are simple plug and play, like my uncle's windows PC. And those PC tasks are somewhat simple in nature.

Plus hardware/CPU strength advances every year. An owner can toss away his commodity PC every 2 yrs if he/she is so hardware inclined.

A 'custom ' or sophisticated device like the Kronos has a 'useful' life span of at least 6 yrs or many more.

PatrickD · Post by **PatrickD** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 6:46 pm

This guy works for Nord This is his ID badge number NIO0850.

NormC · Post by **NormC** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:57 pm

SanderXpander wrote:Honestly, I keep saying this, but the only reason this even comes up is because the Kronos' internals resemble a common PC so much. You don't see the same kinds of complaints about the Motif, simply because it doesn't have a Mobo with "Intel" printed on it.

Treat the Kronos like a synth and most of these misgivings will be void.

I'll also be hoping for a higher performance model somewhere in the coming years. But it's not going to be top shelf performing PC hardware, ever. Even disregarding cost, if they just did custom software development, stability testing and mass production they'd be years behind the most current hardware releases. It's amazing that they used hardware as recent as they did. This is not Windows, that you can slap on basically any random configuration of hardware and it will boot (and then gets crap for not being 100 percent stable 24/7).

Exactly. I think the Kronos is fantastic! That is why I bought it and joined this forum to learn more about it.