Korg DS1-H damper pedal for the Kronos.

ando727 · Post by **ando727** » Mon Mar 07, 2016 1:50 pm

Hi all, my first post here. This week I will be getting my Kronos 2 88. It's very exciting, but I am unsure what to do about the damper pedal. I decided I should get the Korg DS1-H damper pedal to ensure compatibility and good performance with the Kronos, but the connectors have me confused. When I got on eBay to search for this pedal, exactly half of them show the pedal with a Mono plug (TS), the other half show the pedal with a Stereo plug (TRS).

The pedal looks totally identical, and they both state that the pedal is the DS1-H and that it has half damper capability.

Which one is correct? Are there two versions of this pedal? Which one do I want for the Kronos?

Thanks in advance!

GregC · Post by **GregC** » Mon Mar 07, 2016 2:36 pm

I am not familiar with a stereo version damper pedal.

Are you sure that the stereo pedal states " DS1-H " ?

Anyway, I think you should stick with the mono plug.

Lets see if any other owners agree. Try googling the forum as this question may have occurred before

voxg · Post by **voxg** » Mon Mar 07, 2016 3:02 pm

My DS-1H has a TRS plug, not TS. The half-damper capability comes from being a continuous controller, like an expression pedal (which is always TRS, I think).

CEB · Post by **CEB** » Mon Mar 07, 2016 7:05 pm

I bought it because it was capable of half damping with the Kronos.

Physically I don't really like the pedal. The pedal travel is too small to make it a nice half damping pedal. I come from a Yamaha and Kawai stage piano background. In terms of physical travel distance Yamaha and Kawai deamper pedals smoke the Korg.

But, I've adjusted and the Korg does its job. I have had no problems with the hardware other than its physical design is not to my taste.

ando727 · Post by **ando727** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 12:47 am

GregC wrote:I am not familiar with a stereo version damper pedal.

Are you sure that the stereo pedal states " DS1-H " ?

Anyway, I think you should stick with the mono plug.

Lets see if any other owners agree. Try googling the forum as this question may have occurred before

Definitely both versions carry the same model number. My forum searches haven't cleared it up for me yet. I keep getting conflicting reports. Maybe it doesn't matter?

voxg wrote:My DS-1H has a TRS plug, not TS. The half-damper capability comes from being a continuous controller, like an expression pedal (which is always TRS, I think).

This pretty much sums up my problem! Two different owners, two different plugs! Because I don't even have my Kronos yet, I don't know what the setup is. I don't know which one to get.

GregC · Post by **GregC** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 12:52 am

ando727 wrote:
GregC wrote:I am not familiar with a stereo version damper pedal.

Are you sure that the stereo pedal states " DS1-H " ?

Anyway, I think you should stick with the mono plug.

Lets see if any other owners agree. Try googling the forum as this question may have occurred before
Definitely both versions carry the same model number. My forum searches haven't cleared it up for me yet. I keep getting conflicting reports. Maybe it doesn't matter?

voxg wrote:My DS-1H has a TRS plug, not TS. The half-damper capability comes from being a continuous controller, like an expression pedal (which is always TRS, I think).
This pretty much sums up my problem! Two different owners, two different plugs! Because I don't even have my Kronos yet, I don't know what the setup is. I don't know which one to get.

I couldn't decide either. try the google search.

if you are in the US, try calling Sweetwater to see if they can talk to it

aron · Post by **aron** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 1:21 am

If you think about it, if it's a TS, then half damping has to be via resistance. So both pedals could work.

pollytronman · Post by **pollytronman** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 8:07 pm

I've just checked mine, it's TRS plug and half-damping works.

aron · Post by **aron** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:11 pm

Hah! Already answered on THIS SITE!

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... 5f3f05b43d

For half-damper, the Korg pedal input looks for a variable resistance between the tip and sleeve of its two-conductor input jack

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:24 pm

Mine is TRS. All my half damping pedals (Roland for example) have been TRS so far. It's possible that the mono plug promo photo is a fluke. To clarify, Greg doesn't have a DS-1H (or at least he doesn't say he does), he just says he hasn't heard of a stereo plug damper pedal. Which is true for regular non-half damping pedals.

CEB · Post by **CEB** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:39 pm

TRS on mine.

dfahrner · Post by **dfahrner** » Wed Mar 09, 2016 12:45 am

All of my DS-1Hs are TRS, but the ring is not connected to anything internally, the only connection is a 25 kohm variable resistor between the tip and sleeve...so a pedal with a TS connector would work, maybe Korg ran out of them or decided to standardize on the same cable/connector for all of their pedals...

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ando727 · Post by **ando727** » Wed Mar 09, 2016 1:44 pm

Thanks guys! It sounds like I can't go wrong with the DS-1H no matter what plug it comes with. Out of curiosity, does anyone know if it is a truly continuous pedal sending able to map to all 0-127 MIDI values? Or does it work in steps like some half damper pedals do? I'm curious to know if it might be possible to use it as an expression pedal in some way. (I realise the short pedal travel and springing up to zero is a factor there).

dfahrner · Post by **dfahrner** » Wed Mar 09, 2016 9:12 pm

With AMS, you can assign the damper pedal to control other KRONOS functions, and the full range of values should be available (this is not really in the pedal itself, but is how the pedal is calibrated in Global / Half Damper Calibration)...and of course you can't plug the DS-1H into the Assignable Pedal jack input, which requires a resistive pedal with all three TRS connections (Tip and Sleeve to the end connections of a potentiometer, and Ring to the center tap)...

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