enigmahack wrote:So where is the line drawn then?
If I sample a sound used in the Kurzweil and integrate that sample into a sound I've created, is that unlawful? I'm injecting my own IP but by using something provided by Kurzweil. I'm allowed to use the 2600 in my recordings and make money from that.
What about if I recreated the sounds of the Kurzweil, but using no samples whatsoever. I'm recreating the sounds very similarly using the ideas and IP from Kurzweil however using no actual materials made by them?
What about a combination of both?
I've also looked into this area, i use this definition, if the source was created by another developer / company then sampling is a no go area for me. In case of sampling (which is a form of copying the original source) kurzweil has invested money to create the rom samples, so sampling (copying) those samples to use them for my own commercial sound set would be something i would never do. (although i don't own a kurzweil, but i had the same discussions about sounds from the Yamaha Motif).
The same applies by sampling the complete presets of synths, it's extremely easy nowadays to clone other synth presets by sampling them with an automated process and a couple of hours extra work for some of the filter and effect settings in the kronos. Since sampling presets is also copying someone else their work it's also an area that i would never do for a commercial sound set.
Of course i have sampled a couple of my other own synths for the kronos, if i need my favorite Virus TI presets, then i don't have to start my virus TI but just have to load that Sample library i created in the kronos, or the nord lead 4, jp8080, etc. and use those sounds directly in the kronos combis. But that's for my own use, which in my opinion is fine.
Also, when i created new sounds for the Motif XF based on their rom sounds i would never create a sampled commercial sound set of them because they were based on the Rom samples of the Motif XF which were created by Yamaha.
Now what can i do with other synths without these limits to create new sample sets for the kronos? If you have a Analog or VA synth and you create your own presets and sample those for your own sample library, then in my opinion this is perfectly fine. The sounds are generated by the synth and I am sampling my own work from other synths.
Also using engines of other synths with your own samples to create new fresh sounds is perfectly fine in my opinion. For instance, i have a lot of Virus TI sounds that i created for that synth. What i did was using those samples as the sample source in the Granulair engine of Omnisphere 2. The end result is simply stunning and the new samples libraries i am creating with that technique brings a completely new sound spectrum to the Kronos.
And this is were things get really interesting, sampling Rom sounds from others or exisiting presets is just a simple copying trick with some added techniques to make them work on the kronos. But when i'm thinking outside that box and creating new kind of samples with all kind of techniques then i am creating something really unique for the kronos without any problems with existing companies.
But this is just my own moral compass, it's a fact that there are other commercial suppliers that are sampling presets of other existing synths, so i guess it's a grey area or they just take the risk.
