Pa600 auto moving cutoff

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Pa600 auto moving cutoff

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Hey there i need some help. In euro trance style on variation 4 acc 4 we can see auto moving cutoff (go menu track controls easy edit and select acc 4) I want to program my style with cutoff from -60 to 0 from 1 to 4 measure.How can I do that?
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I took your question as a challenge!

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Well it is possible to program the cutoff manually!

From what I have tested:

By connecting a damper pedal and changing the pedal functionality to Cutoff (there is one option kind of like VDF Upper Cutoff, I think?), my intention was to make some kind of change in the cutoff to the sound at the time of style recording, and it did worked!

I was able to make change to the sound at the time of recording and at playback recording. By playback recording, I just meant we play a single continuous note and replay it and making some changes to it. Overdub might be the term I am trying to tell here! I am not sure!

But it was just a mess! Nothing perfect! Just mix of sudden changes to the cutoff. What else could you expect from a damper pedal? Ha ha...

But things I found that would be helpful to you are:

We can see the cutoff change in the Event Edit of a corresponding track(check it with euro trance var4-acc4)... It is Ctrl 74...
So you can manually insert notes and change them to Ctrl 74 and its corresponding value...
When in the Event Edit, everything is considered as events! Sorry, its not only notes!
Well there are lot of ctrl74 in the case of EuroTrance:Var4-Acc4...

What I am trying to point out here is, we CAN change (program) the cutoff...

But we can do the process more smoothly with a knob controller...
My assumption with the case of EuroTrance is that, Korg might have done it with an external control knob for cutoff parameter...
Sadly, Korg's OS do not support changes to the track controls in terms of cutoff, resonance etc.. at the time of recording...

What you can do within style recording mode is:
Create dummy (or extra) notes and change it to Ctrl74 and increase/decrease corresponding values to match your cutoff needs...

This is one way I am thinking of! +point is that we can do it inside style editing without any extra complications.
Make it Solo Mode before event editing and that way you can hear it individually to hear the cutoff change more clearly. Its your choice!

If you are familiar with MIDI and stuff, you can try to give Korg some messages to manually control the cutoff with software knobs... I am not familiar with MIDI... So there is nothing I can tell about that! No proof! Only predictions! Sorry!

By the way, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY AUTO-CUTOFF?
Cutoff changing "automatically" at the time of style playback. Right?
That's what I can see from your referenced example case... But could that be done at the time of recording? We are only seeing the cutoff being changed at style playback. This thought has lead me to this test. So, my conclusion is, it is recorded like that!

I will be testing this more deeply and if I find anything else, I will post it!
I will clarify about auto-movement in the next post!

Much Obliged!
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Post by =XiOXiS= »

Hey there! Back again with more info!

As I have said I tested it with a damper pedal, the values were changing instantaneously, ie: not changing through the values, but changing directly to the values. When I press the pedal for the first time (and please note, after connecting the pedal, no change to cutoff is made, it stays on 0), Cutoff reaches to +63. On release of the pedal, Cutoff reaches to -64.
This is visible on the Track Control. Just immediately changes the value to +63 then to -64. And it repeats for the pedal presses done, but it never goes back to 0.
Just -64 and +63. So the smooth change of the values that we can see in EuroTrance:Var4-Acc4 can be clearly said it is done with a Knob Controller.
By the way, have you noticed Acc3 and Acc2 of Var4???
Simultaneous Cutoff and Resonance changes are occuring there...

So you said you wanted to program your style/acc with cutoff start at -60 and reach at 0 on the fourth measure!
I said before that you can see the Ctrl74 on Event Edit. But note that it supports values from 0 to 127!

-64 = 0
0 = 64
+63 = 127

So I suppose you want the change of cutoff from -60 to 0.
If that's the case, then you should check for changes in Ctrl74 from values 4 to 64, because changes in values from 65 to 127 really mean a cutoff change from 1 to +63!
So, please be aware of that if you are going to do it in the programmable way!

I saw your reply to "wah effect with pitchbend Y+"... From that, I assume you like things to be more systematic and clear and step-by-step methods are your favorite way of explaining to someone about how-to stuffs... If you want something like that, please feel free to inform me! :wink:
I would be very happy to help you!


Much Obliged!
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Post by =XiOXiS= »

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/xdCQl8QMUY ... branding=1" frameborder="0"></iframe>

I just made a video showing what I have said above.
As I have said so much about it above, I have not said anything here. Its just do and hear!
It supports 1080p. If you can, watch HD version!
This might help you!

Much Obliged
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Post by Daibang »

Thanks alot ;)
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