Electribe 2S Red

[musicmagus]

So lets say you load SampleSet1.all file. This contains the required settings for the patterns and locations of samples, yes?

But when I want to save/backup before powering down, does it save to this file or a default .all file?

If the former, then the location of the .all file is not important, is that right?

When you power on the korg it loads the allsample file in the korg directory/folder.

To save all patterns you save an allpattern file. When you save all samples you save an allsample file. These files get written to the korg folder and cannot be changed. That's why you need to plug the sd card into the computer and do some organizing with your folder structure.
You can choose where you load from but you can't choose where you save to.. It always saves to the korg folder.

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[musicmagus]

OK thanks. But.. The korg folder can only contain one allsample and allpattern file? So loading a new all file and then saving your work overwrites the korg folder content?

Well, the default folder can contain multiple allsample and allpattern files IF you rename them on the computer... BUT you cannot change the name of the file while saving or the location of the save on the e2s itself so it will always overwrite the generic named allsample and allpattern file in the default folder. AND you will always have to rename this file on the computer or move it to a new folder if you don't want to overwrite it.
This default folder also contains any single patterns you saved and folders of any patterns you have exported to audio. Nothing gets overwritten except the allsample or allpattern file.

If your still confused by all this check out some YouTube vids or if you've got the unit jus try some stuff out and have fun with it.

[Loudest]

in other words, there is a "Save" but not a "Save as"...

and it changes everything...

unfortunately

[sl23]

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I dont think the petition is clear enuff in his specification for what is required in terms of sample management.

also I dont think it is allocated enuff priority it should really be at the top of the list as far as the sampler is concerned.

[Loudest]

I dont think the petition is clear enuff in his specification for what is required in terms of sample management.

also I dont think it is allocated enuff priority it should really be at the top of the list as far as the sampler is concerned.

We are on the same page
I have made a post about it on this thread:
http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... &start=138

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I dont think the petition is clear enuff in his specification for what is required in terms of sample management.

also I dont think it is allocated enuff priority it should really be at the top of the list as far as the sampler is concerned.

We are on the same page
I have made a post about it on this thread:
http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... &start=138

I agree there should be a top 5 list for the E2 and a top 5 list for the ES2

Just so everything is Crystal clear once Korg actually get the petition.

[Loudest]

there should be a top 5 list for the E2 and a top 5 list for the ES2
Just so everything is Crystal clear once Korg actually get the petition.

I agree
Okay, well, I'll just get into it


First of all : fix all bugs!

then

For the Electribe Synth (but actually both units would benefit from that):

1) copy/paste bars

2) direct access to step edit
maybe a second mode with the Sequencer button (like the Part Mute button with Solo mode)
i.e. press Sequencer button once, it lights, and the Electribe is in Sequencer mode (just like it is now)
press the Sequencer button again, it blinks, and we are in step edit mode! (with circular menu)
press again it goes back to normal Sequencer mode (again, just like the Part mute button)

3) same thing for Part Erase button :
Press once, the Electribe acts just like it is now
press again, the Part Erase button blinks and we can erase directly (and completely) a part (by pressing the corresponding pad of course..)

4) leds blink in Part Mute mode (essential to know which track currently playing)

5) display the steps in the Step Jump mode (just like in the Sequencer mode)
essential to see where are the steps we want to jump on
and synced step jump (so it stays in time on release).


For the Electribe Sampler :

1) an improvement in term of file management (copy, paste, duplicate files, create folders, delete, rename etc.)
it would be preferable not to use the computer for this kind of things, and make the Electribe really standalone
so we could save our sample-sets (and also our pattern-sets) in several .all files, with different names.

2) pre-listening directly from the SD card, so we could work from a blank .all file and import only the samples we need for a project
so we could have gigabytes of wav files at our disposal, straight from the sd card (this would overcome the global limit of 24Mb since it would become the limit per project...)

a simple way to do that would be:
-long press on a pad + Menu/Enter = direct access to the SD card tree (in other words: [Samples] folder)
-choose the sample with the main encoder
-press play/stop for pre-listen/stop
-press again Menu/Enter to load the selected sample on the selected pad
(and probably "Exit" button to cancel the operation and go back to the main screen...)

3) waveform representation

4) automatic zero crossing snapping function
(essential for a good loop point adjustment)

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Good start but I think fix all bugs is vague and can be subject to interpretation because u may say this is a bug but Korg may consider that same bug just a design feature, but to build on your list


For the Electribe Sampler :

1) an improvement in term of file management (when the USB is port of the ES2 is connected to the PC, it should show up as two hard drives one for the korg and the other for sd card. WAV files should be able to dragged directly to the SD card or the actual Korg ES2 memory)

2) Samples should be able to be streamed directly from the SD card and function as an extended live memory for the ES2

3) Freely assignable mute groups instead of only 13/14, 15/16 being able to bet set to cut each other off, you should be able to set this for any pad combination.

4) Higher quantize resolutions instead of just 1/16, 1/32, they should add 1/64, 1/128 and OFF.

5) Additional filter models similar to the E2, some of the filter types from the E2, perhaps some different filters for the sampler like for instance the moog filter, the asr filter, s950 filter and the sp1200 filter

[Loudest]

Good start but I think fix all bugs is vague and can be subject to interpretation because u may say this is a bug but Korg may consider that same bug just a design feature

When I said that, I thought "the bugs listed in the petition"...


I tried to deal only with requests already made in the petition
I think we should stay realistic (most of all with our "TOP 5"...)
I mean,

For the Electribe Sampler :
2) Samples should be able to be streamed directly from the SD card and function as an extended live memory for the ES2

personally, I would love that. Really.
But I think it is impossible (with the E2 engine/CPU) to stream multiple samples directly from a SD card
and play them in real time with a polyphony of 24 voices...

5) Additional filter models similar to the E2, some of the filter types from the E2, perhaps some different filters for the sampler like for instance the moog filter, the asr filter, s950 filter and the sp1200 filter

I think it will never happen for the Electribe Sampler, since this is a main feature of the Synth Version
Korg's interest is to sell both ...

plus, filters are more pertinents for a synth

on the other hand,it would be nice to add more specific functions (appropriate for a sampler)
I am thinking of editing functions like transpose, truncate, time stretching etc.
but, again, I think this kind of things never gonna happen

[Unruly]

quantize step jump would be my number 1, because the step jump is so powerful and unique to the electribe, but it goes off time to other sync'd midi devices if it's even a little off. And a better save system. I'd love to have a "save all" that would save patterns and sounds to a file the could be named. So if I wanted to load a techno set, I'd just load it with one operation. Seems pretty simple.

[Loudest]

quantize step jump would be my number 1, because the step jump is so powerful and unique to the electribe, but it goes off time to other sync'd midi devices if it's even a little off. And a better save system. I'd love to have a "save all" that would save patterns and sounds to a file the could be named. So if I wanted to load a techno set, I'd just load it with one operation. Seems pretty simple.

You're right
I edit this point in my list (about Step Jump)
Essential!

In fact, I think the idea is to focus on the improvement of what is already there, and not ask for new functionalities
(if they come, they will be welcome anyway)