I just started working with the MS20 in the Kronos so I'm not really sure I know what I'm doing. I have it set so that tone holds to its' maximum length. When I go to the "oscillators & Filters" page and highlight VOLTAGE CONTROLLED LOWPASS FILTER, then move the "Value" slider up and down, it does exactly what I want it to do: it toggles the knob left to right creating the sweep sound I'm looking for....like a radio frequency sound.
Now I know that if I copy this into a COMBI, the Value slider won't give me that ability because it now has a different function, so I wanted to give one of the knobs (preferably Knob 8 ) the ability to toggle that function so that it sweeps like it did in the program. Does that make any sense?
I've tried highlighting the knob and changed the AMS Knob 8 CC 74 and change the intensities, etc. but it's not working. I'm guessing that's because that's wrong....
Perhaps there's something I need to patch in the patch window? Although that seems a bit of a mystery to me, I did patch VCO1 to EG1 trig in.
Kronos and the MS20 and ASM assignments
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Kronos and the MS20 and ASM assignments
Current Gear: Korg Kronos, Yamaha MODX, Hammond XK-1
Actually you can have the value slider function in Combi for a specific timbre program such as your MS-20 program. The Value slider will change settings over whatever is highlighted on the screen, same as the dial but it can assign to some AMS duties.
First check to see that the AMS for the VC filter control has Value Slider CC#18 on the list. Set AMS to that or the Knob of choice,CC#17,19,20,21 for knobs 5,6,7,8. You may need to scroll the AMS list to find the rest of the options. Not all controls have the same AMS list and not all lists include the Value slider CC#18 option.
Once you set the AMS, set the intensity very high and then adjust it down as needed, and do not move the value slider once you are done setting it to AMS with highlighted edit cells.
Leave the edit page and go to the main page where nothing is highlighted except the program number&name cell(value slider will not affect Main top screen program/Combi change cell.
The Value slider will act as normal to change anything highlighted and abandon its AMS assignment if you habe anything highlighted other than the things it does not affect.
It will go back to AMS assignment once no relevant edit cell is highlighted on screen.
The main program change cell can be highlited and value slider does not affect it, then value slider can be free to its AMS assignment.
You can do the top right screen drop down menu in combi to enter program edit from combi mode. It will take you to whatever timbre program is highlighted at the time. There you can set up the AMS to value slider ~if that option is available per your control. Save the edited program to store the AMS settings for keeps. You will hear the entire combi while in program edit mode also.
You can do the same process if you decide to assign knobs instead of value slider. Value slider requires caution because it will drop off of AMS duty whenever you start highlighting things to edit on screen. The Dial will do the same job as the value slider but makes no difference because Value slider will still abandon AMS assignment any time you highlight cells that respond to value slider changes. You either lose many highlight options or the AMS option if you use value slider as AMS option. But if you are sharp, you can work the screen to enable AMS and edit cells as needed for the best of both worlds.
Also, you may have to sort through all the other programs in your Combi to find what other AMS are using Value slider or the knobs of choice.
Go to Control Surface tab in Tone adjust page and you may find options to assign the same needed parameters to any of the 8 sliders or any of the 8 knobs. I think you will be amazed at what you can set up from tone adjust page rather than sorting out all the AMS across all the EXi parameters. Tone adjust page packs in all assignment options possible per 16 switches and the 8 sliders and you can highlight any of the knobs and sliders on the page and use the value slider or dial to control it.
The master slider is actually a 9th slider that can be assigned just like the other 8 sliders. I always overlook that.
First check to see that the AMS for the VC filter control has Value Slider CC#18 on the list. Set AMS to that or the Knob of choice,CC#17,19,20,21 for knobs 5,6,7,8. You may need to scroll the AMS list to find the rest of the options. Not all controls have the same AMS list and not all lists include the Value slider CC#18 option.
Once you set the AMS, set the intensity very high and then adjust it down as needed, and do not move the value slider once you are done setting it to AMS with highlighted edit cells.
Leave the edit page and go to the main page where nothing is highlighted except the program number&name cell(value slider will not affect Main top screen program/Combi change cell.
The Value slider will act as normal to change anything highlighted and abandon its AMS assignment if you habe anything highlighted other than the things it does not affect.
It will go back to AMS assignment once no relevant edit cell is highlighted on screen.
The main program change cell can be highlited and value slider does not affect it, then value slider can be free to its AMS assignment.
You can do the top right screen drop down menu in combi to enter program edit from combi mode. It will take you to whatever timbre program is highlighted at the time. There you can set up the AMS to value slider ~if that option is available per your control. Save the edited program to store the AMS settings for keeps. You will hear the entire combi while in program edit mode also.
You can do the same process if you decide to assign knobs instead of value slider. Value slider requires caution because it will drop off of AMS duty whenever you start highlighting things to edit on screen. The Dial will do the same job as the value slider but makes no difference because Value slider will still abandon AMS assignment any time you highlight cells that respond to value slider changes. You either lose many highlight options or the AMS option if you use value slider as AMS option. But if you are sharp, you can work the screen to enable AMS and edit cells as needed for the best of both worlds.
Also, you may have to sort through all the other programs in your Combi to find what other AMS are using Value slider or the knobs of choice.
Go to Control Surface tab in Tone adjust page and you may find options to assign the same needed parameters to any of the 8 sliders or any of the 8 knobs. I think you will be amazed at what you can set up from tone adjust page rather than sorting out all the AMS across all the EXi parameters. Tone adjust page packs in all assignment options possible per 16 switches and the 8 sliders and you can highlight any of the knobs and sliders on the page and use the value slider or dial to control it.
The master slider is actually a 9th slider that can be assigned just like the other 8 sliders. I always overlook that.
Thanks.
I figured out how to assign the knob in Program mode. But it won't translate to combi because LFP frequency doesn't appear to be an option in the control surface so I presume the same would be with the value slider...unless I missed something.
I figured out how to assign the knob in Program mode. But it won't translate to combi because LFP frequency doesn't appear to be an option in the control surface so I presume the same would be with the value slider...unless I missed something.
Current Gear: Korg Kronos, Yamaha MODX, Hammond XK-1
Value slider isn't an option in the control surface page Tone adjust. Value Slider can be set as AMS within the program if it is available on the particular AMS list you are working with.chensa wrote:Thanks.
I figured out how to assign the knob in Program mode. But it won't translate to combi because LFP frequency doesn't appear to be an option in the control surface so I presume the same would be with the value slider...unless I missed something.
Not all AMS have the option you may want.
I am still curious about combi mode if it does any auto managing of tone adjust options like it does with shared FX between timbres/tracks. Because i see LPF frequency on the knob assignment list but it is greyed out of access.
In other areas of kronos where options are greyed out, there are some conflicting settings or steps to follow elsewhere which then open up the greyed out options. I don't know if that applies to the case of the tone adjust page control assignment list with greyed out options.
You have given me something to look into now, maybe i will learn more about it some day.
I just did the drop down menu from the top right screen in tone adjust page in Combi and selected "copy from program". MS20 program copied and then " [EXi] LPF frequency " appeared in the knob assignments.
In other knob assignment lists, it was still greyed out.
Do it as when you set it up in program and then save the program to store the settings. Then go to combi tone adjust page and be sure to select the timbre you want tone adjust page for. You will see a little box says "Timbre" at the far right of the row of 8 knobs on the screen. Set the Timbre to the timbre you want, then go to the top screen drop down menu and try "Copy from program". Be sure to also set the correct timbre and program in the "copy from program" dialogue box.
Using copy from program while in combi mode ,is the best way to get all your details to transfer/translate over. Even the greyed out assignment options will be activated this way as long as they were available and used in program edits.
You can go to "program edit" in combi mode from the drop down menu and you will be in program mode on the screen ,but with combi and program sound playing ,and both mode buttons will be lit up. You will be taken to whatever program you highlighted in the timbres.
Then go back to combi after editing the program and do "copy from program" over the tone adjust page, to get the changes to transfer/translate over to combi and to also see what they are in tone adjust page. Even tone adjust copies/translates over.
I think EXi LPF frequency will be available for you in combi this way. It just worked for me in an MS20 program put to timbre 6. Even the VCO2 AMS to Value slider i set up for it in program mode, is also working in Combi mode.
Just be alert when using Value slider as AMS because it will abandon AMS duty whenever you highlight something on the screen within the value slider control.