How Good is the Pa4x

[chelsea4023]

Hi Pippuzzo,

Great post, thanks

Chris

[fcoulter]

The one thing I see on the Yamaha arrangers that I don't see on the Korg arrangers is the depth of user support. Not Yamaha supporting users, but users supporting other users. There is a huge number of styles created by Yamaha players that are shared, generally for free, with other players.

Perhaps I'm just not looking in the right spot. But I haven't seen anything equivalent to psrtutorial.com for the Korg arrangers.

[mstodola]

I found more consistent and intuitive the Korg solution, since I like the fact that each entry correspond to a song, and each song contains up to 4 sounds (that's more than enough for me)

Just to clarify, it is not 4 sounds to a song or style, it is 4 STS per song or style. A STS is more like a performance of 3 sounds which are layered and can be adjusted or turned on and off. I don't use the left hand sound, which would make it 4 sounds per STS.

[chelsea4023]

Hi Fred,

You are currently on the best Korg Forums around. You have a question, post it and you will get an answer from someone. You can access links to tutorial videos of all aspects of your arranger keyboard. The official Korg Website will have access to free styles to download.
Should you require a mass of free styles from previous Korg arrangers and conversions from other Manufacturers arranger keyboards, then go to,

https://dopamine4korg.wordpress.com/

Download the latest Dopamine Set 2.6, load it into your PA4X or any other current Korg arranger. The user sections will be filled with 1,200 styles, 1,400 sounds, 760 pads and 320 performances (the exact number will fluctuate depending on your arranger). There are loading instructions included in the download file. The guy (who creates the file and spends literally months compiling all this stuff) lives in France, does it purely for the benefit of Korg arranger owners (and himself), and most importantly does it all for free.

There is nobody connected with Yamaha (owners, officials, enthusiasts) that will be able to offer you such a comprehensive selection of good, useable styles, sounds and pads for free as Dopamine.

Please don't be afraid to use the Dopamine Set as once loaded, if you are not happy with it (which I very much doubt), you can do a reset of the keyboard.

Chris

[chelsea4023]

Hi Advid,

I read your last post several times over and don't disagree about your views regarding the public who want to be entertained and who don't care what instrument you use to entertain them.

What you don't seem to be taking into account is that this is a Korg Forum specifically about the PA4X and not specifically about musicians and entertaining people. Most of the posters are passionate people who have invested the best part of £3,000 (U.K.) in their keyboards and use this specific forum to express their pleasure, anger, frustration, enjoyment in their keyboard. To most of these people, the sound is massively important, along with how realistic the styles are, how smoothly the O/S performs and in how good the PA4X generally does it's job (I hope you are getting the point I'm trying to convey).

I don't mean to offend you by what I have said, but if we cannot express our opinions about the Korg PA4X on a PA4X specific Korg Forum, how do we express our views ?

Chris

[D575]

Hi Advid,

I read your last post several times over and don't disagree about your views regarding the public who want to be entertained and who don't care what instrument you use to entertain them.

What you don't seem to be taking into account is that this is a Korg Forum specifically about the PA4X and not specifically about musicians and entertaining people. Most of the posters are passionate people who have invested the best part of £3,000 (U.K.) in their keyboards and use this specific forum to express their pleasure, anger, frustration, enjoyment in their keyboard. To most of these people, the sound is massively important, along with how realistic the styles are, how smoothly the O/S performs and in how good the PA4X generally does it's job (I hope you are getting the point I'm trying to convey).

I don't mean to offend you by what I have said, but if we cannot express our opinions about the Korg PA4X on a PA4X specific Korg Forum, how do we express our views ?

Chris

+1.....So yes the PA4X is still a very good keyboard which i still enjoy playing and has alot of positive points to its name, BUT as echoed still on this forum it has not left off so well in many ways as it's predecessor the PA3X and I won't go into that as this has been covered and still is on this forum, so i feel some more work from korg is needed with the PA4X if they won't to hold on to a lot of loyal customers which like my self I have been for many years, I will conclude by saying...Constructive criticism is the process of offering valid and well-reasoned opinions about the work of others, usually involving both positive and negative comments, in a friendly manner rather than an oppositional one. The purpose of 'constructive criticism is to improve the outcome.

[harshalnaidu]

Having casually played PA4x for the last couple of months I think it is a great arranger if you perform in live gigs. Feature wise it has got a lot.

But if you are more of a home player or record at home, I think Yamaha PSR/Tyros sound better and and you may not be that demanding in that much from the features in Yamahas.

[Bachus]

The one thing I see on the Yamaha arrangers that I don't see on the Korg arrangers is the depth of user support. Not Yamaha supporting users, but users supporting other users. There is a huge number of styles created by Yamaha players that are shared, generally for free, with other players.

Perhaps I'm just not looking in the right spot. But I haven't seen anything equivalent to psrtutorial.com for the Korg arrangers.

This is the big difference between the Yamaha and Korg Comminities..

Korg players are pro's and many of the capable ones need to make a living with their keys and so they charge money for their selfcreated stuff...

Over on the Yamaha community, most people are home players that play for fun. And they are just perfectly fine with sharing their selfcreated stuff with the community.

[eli125]

The one thing I see on the Yamaha arrangers that I don't see on the Korg arrangers is the depth of user support. Not Yamaha supporting users, but users supporting other users. There is a huge number of styles created by Yamaha players that are shared, generally for free, with other players.

Perhaps I'm just not looking in the right spot. But I haven't seen anything equivalent to psrtutorial.com for the Korg arrangers.

This is the big difference between the Yamaha and Korg Comminities..

Korg players are pro's and many of the capable ones need to make a living with their keys and so they charge money for their selfcreated stuff...

Over on the Yamaha community, most people are home players that play for fun. And they are just perfectly fine with sharing their selfcreated stuff with the community.

i have the korg pa4x just for home and i must say if you know hoe to work with it there is nothing beter yes i will be happy with some upgrads but check this out some i made myself some from the keyboard some mixed and you tell me if its not like yamaha t5 i think its much much better but the saxophone and some sounds i like from yamaha my alto saxophone is sampled the guitar and all other are from the pa4x https://soundcloud.com/user-424256519/s ... -pa4x-demo all played on pa4x you dont have to believe me and you can do much betterthis is it

[harshalnaidu]

I have been on Yamaha forum for years and most of my questions on PSR and Motifs were answered by either musicians or Yamaha product experts. And the answer was always educational and explain in detail why stuff worked the way it did even when it was something that was clearly mentioned in the manual.

I'm not going to compare this forum to Yamaha forum and comment if one is better than the other. Just responding to the comment here.

Also to add, I had over 500+ additional styles that were shared by the users which sounded professional.

[mstodola]

Yamaha was always easier to get a answer from the product specialists on their forum than Korg. Korg has this forum which is moderated independently. Yamaha forums are usually moderated by a product specialist. But the moderators here have many years of experience on the Pa arrangers. I would have to agree, it's apples and oranges; personal taste.

[harshalnaidu]

The one thing I see on the Yamaha arrangers that I don't see on the Korg arrangers is the depth of user support. Not Yamaha supporting users, but users supporting other users. There is a huge number of styles created by Yamaha players that are shared, generally for free, with other players.

Perhaps I'm just not looking in the right spot. But I haven't seen anything equivalent to psrtutorial.com for the Korg arrangers.

This is the big difference between the Yamaha and Korg Comminities..

Korg players are pro's and many of the capable ones need to make a living with their keys and so they charge money for their selfcreated stuff...

Over on the Yamaha community, most people are home players that play for fun. And they are just perfectly fine with sharing their selfcreated stuff with the community.

i have the korg pa4x just for home and i must say if you know hoe to work with it there is nothing beter yes i will be happy with some upgrads but check this out some i made myself some from the keyboard some mixed and you tell me if its not like yamaha t5 i think its much much better but the saxophone and some sounds i like from yamaha my alto saxophone is sampled the guitar and all other are from the pa4x https://soundcloud.com/user-424256519/s ... -pa4x-demo all played on pa4x you dont have to believe me and you can do much betterthis is it

Great work. There's no doubt you can do a lot with the instrument. It is probably preference but the instrument does not sound full bodied to me.

[eli125]

what do you mean with the word but the instrument does not sound full bodied to me. explain please thanx