Kronos 61 as a cabin luggage?

emilloparski · Post by **emilloparski** » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:18 pm

Hi, guys! I was doing some research, but wasn't able to find much... So does anyone have experience with carrying Kronos 61 as a cabin luggage, with a softcase, are there any problems, do they measure the kgs and so on?

Regards,
Emil

Geoff Flynn · Post by **Geoff Flynn** » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:27 pm

emilloparski wrote:Hi, guys! I was doing some research, but wasn't able to find much... So does anyone have experience with carrying Kronos 61 as a cabin luggage, with a softcase, are there any problems, do they measure the kgs and so on?

Regards,
Emil

Would definitely be classed as hold luggage. Far too large (both dimensions and weight) for taking into any aircraft cabin. Check Airline you are flying on for their cabin restrictions.

GregC · Post by **GregC** » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:44 pm

emilloparski wrote:Hi, guys! I was doing some research, but wasn't able to find much... So does anyone have experience with carrying Kronos 61 as a cabin luggage, with a softcase, are there any problems, do they measure the kgs and so on?

Regards,
Emil

you better have a real life conversation with the airline about cabin restrictions. there is no ' 1 size fits all '

I assume you don't want your 61 in a soft case go banging around as a piece of luggage and end up in the luggage/storage compartment of the airplane

Falcon2e · Post by **Falcon2e** » Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:55 pm

Having worked in aviation, I seriously doubt that they will let you carry it on. Bummer

aron · Post by **aron** » Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:20 pm

Yes, I really doubt it. I would say no.
In general, I wouldn't trust the Kronos as even checked in baggage with those knobs and joystick. I know others have done so, but I wouldn't trust it - especially with the RAM being able to come loose.

emilloparski · Post by **emilloparski** » Sun Feb 12, 2017 6:51 am

Thanks, guys, just ordered a hardcase from Thomann. I would not riskbit then.

Regards,
Emil

Mulldoon219 · Post by **Mulldoon219** » Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:28 am

Seeing you ordered from Thomann I'm going to surmise you're not in the US.

The US DOT (Dept. of Transportation) passed new regs in 2015 that provide for musicians traveling with musical instruments. They classify a guitar as a "small" instrument, so you might be able to get away with a 61-key synth on certain airlines (each sets there own rules based on the guidelines from the DOT)

The legalize is here:
https://www.transportation.gov/sites/do ... 20rule.pdf

This page covers most major US airlines rules:
http://airlines.org/blog/instrument-rat ... musicians/

Basically, most say if it can fit safety in the overhead, you can stow it there. It DOES NOT have to meet their normal carry-on size requirements Just make sure you are one of the first to board. If you get on and there's no room in the overheads, you are SOL.

Some may require you to pay for an extra seat to house the instrument. Depending on the fare, that may or may not make financial sense.

Bottom line, check with the airline you are booked on and see what their policy is.

aron · Post by **aron** » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:48 am

I don't think the Kronos will fit in most overhead. The Korg Kross will though.
I still stand by the fact that I wouldn't ship a Kronos in baggage. I have had rentals that didn't make it working - ram came loose etc... They didn't even ship them as normal baggage - more like air freight.
OTOH I have a Kronos 1, maybe the 2 is more sturdy - but look at those knobs and joystick? So fragile.

Schmooster · Post by **Schmooster** » Fri Feb 24, 2017 9:00 am

Get a Flght-Case and do it properly, at least then you're insured. You won't fit this into any over-head locker without annoying the passengers around you - if in fact you could get it in there at all - prepare to find it buried beneath laptops if you do.

Schmooster · Post by **Schmooster** » Fri Feb 24, 2017 9:05 am

aron wrote:I don't think the Kronos will fit in most overhead. The Korg Kross will though.
I still stand by the fact that I wouldn't ship a Kronos in baggage. I have had rentals that didn't make it working - ram came loose etc... They didn't even ship them as normal baggage - more like air freight.
OTOH I have a Kronos 1, maybe the 2 is more sturdy - but look at those knobs and joystick? So fragile.

Anything shipped unaccompanied is air-freight, anything shipped as baggage should be suitably packed!! Where do you think the term 'Flight-case' comes from?? If you pack it in a case where it's not secure in foam then you deserve whatever bits you get back out of it.

I'm sure people are just taking the preverbial around here, next it'll be "I'm thinking of buying a keyboard, what should I buy and how much should I spend on it"?

PatrickD · Post by **PatrickD** » Sun Feb 26, 2017 5:08 pm

I used to work for Northwest Orient Airlines before Delta ate them.
I will say this as well as I can from my experience handling baggage.

GET THE HARDEST CASE YOU CAN FIND AND DONT EXPECT IT TO STAY PRETTY.

aron · Post by **aron** » Sun Feb 26, 2017 7:38 pm

> Where do you think the term 'Flight-case' comes from??

Are the SKB cases flight cases?

I had this one:
https://www.skbcases.com/music/products ... &c=88&s=76

Put my CS6X through luggage and the keys and knobs got smashed as the case can flex.
I agree on the HARD case part. You don't want it to flex at all.

Oh and on the air freight part - these were professionally packed - I'm talking keyboard rental guys - the SIMMS still came out. That's what I meant.
The keyboard outside was fine - the RAM got popped out from the travel.

>If you pack it in a case where it's not secure in foam then you deserve whatever bits you get back out of it.

????? is this necessary? I never understand when people post stuff like this. It's so irritating... There are so many other ways to post something like this.

Bertotti · Post by **Bertotti** » Sun Feb 26, 2017 8:10 pm

In the States I don't see anyway they would let you carry it on, no way no how, but they would let you do a gate check. Roll up to the jetway and at the plane a person takes it to be loaded below. Never the less it is still stacked with other luggage you just save yourself the worry of the trip to and from the plane and the luggage system in the terminal. I would not do so either way without a quality hard case.

DaveKeys · Post by **DaveKeys** » Sun Feb 26, 2017 9:21 pm

aron wrote:> Where do you think the term 'Flight-case' comes from??

Are the SKB cases flight cases?

I had this one:
https://www.skbcases.com/music/products ... &c=88&s=76

Put my CS6X through luggage and the keys and knobs got smashed as the case can flex.
I agree on the HARD case part. You don't want it to flex at all.

Oh and on the air freight part - these were professionally packed - I'm talking keyboard rental guys - the SIMMS still came out. That's what I meant.
The keyboard outside was fine - the RAM got popped out from the travel.

>If you pack it in a case where it's not secure in foam then you deserve whatever bits you get back out of it.

????? is this necessary? I never understand when people post stuff like this. It's so irritating... There are so many other ways to post something like this.

Hi Aron

Interesting what you say regarding the SKB case - I was thinking of ordering that model for my new Nord Electro5HP 73. I wouldn't be taking it on a plane, just loading in and out of cars and vans.
For my Kronos, I have the Korg HC-Kronos2 61 Case. I wonder if you have any experience of that, and if so, can tell me what the SKB is like for rigidity in comparison with the Korg case?

DaveKeys · Post by **DaveKeys** » Sun Feb 26, 2017 9:22 pm

aron wrote:> Where do you think the term 'Flight-case' comes from??

Are the SKB cases flight cases?

I had this one:
https://www.skbcases.com/music/products ... &c=88&s=76

Put my CS6X through luggage and the keys and knobs got smashed as the case can flex.
I agree on the HARD case part. You don't want it to flex at all.

Oh and on the air freight part - these were professionally packed - I'm talking keyboard rental guys - the SIMMS still came out. That's what I meant.
The keyboard outside was fine - the RAM got popped out from the travel.

>If you pack it in a case where it's not secure in foam then you deserve whatever bits you get back out of it.

????? is this necessary? I never understand when people post stuff like this. It's so irritating... There are so many other ways to post something like this.

Hi Aron

Interesting what you say regarding the SKB case - I was thinking of ordering that model for my new Nord Electro5HP 73. I wouldn't be taking it on a plane, just loading in and out of cars and vans.

For my Kronos, I have the Korg HC-Kronos2 61 Case. I wonder if you have any experience of that, and if so, can tell me what the SKB is like for rigidity in comparison with the Korg case?

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