Hello everyone...
So my question is.:
How to assign RT Knob to external midi controller...
I buy controller with led. So now i can see how much effect i have.
Becouse i really so much miss why my kronos haven't led like oasys or montage.
So i believe there is a way...
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I have app fro this controller where i can set many parameters... but don't know how to start, and where change this in kronos.
How to assign RT Knob to external midi controller
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RT knobs can assigned at page Global->Controllers/Scales->Function Assign
You can define midi channel and CC# for each RT knob.
You can define midi channel and CC# for each RT knob.
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If your purpose is to control other devices with the Kronos control surface, you can also create up to 128 different MIDI setups for the knobs/sliders/switches. This is done at Global->MIDI->External1. To put the control surface into External mode, look under "Control Assign" (next to the leftmost RT knob) and the down to the "EXT" button. This will put the Kronos's control surface in External MIDI mode.
To access your MIDI setups later, Press the "PROG" button to enter Program mode, then EXT for External MIDI Control, and the select the "Control Surface" page on the display. You can then pick the different setups with the "Setup" parameter. The same thing will also work with COMBI mode (and I think the Set List as well on the Control Surface tab when EXT is pressed.)
-T
To access your MIDI setups later, Press the "PROG" button to enter Program mode, then EXT for External MIDI Control, and the select the "Control Surface" page on the display. You can then pick the different setups with the "Setup" parameter. The same thing will also work with COMBI mode (and I think the Set List as well on the Control Surface tab when EXT is pressed.)
-T
@alland thx, i was try, and its work...
But something is not working like i want....
So i buy midi fighter twister. Compact 16 knobs.
I assign --- Function Assign to ch1 and cc00, ch2 cc01 and ch8 cc07.
So now i have all RT knows assign to 8 knobs.
I go to Prog mode, find some path... And i can control via my external midi fighter.... Until now everything is ok.
What is not? is when i change the path, the led dose not change...
It's like korg kronos not send RT to this device... I can control, the led change but after i touch. I need before to see where i am.
Maybe i should do try @Traubitz method...
Guys help...
I have 60 song -- 60 preset, and when i load from set list i don't know how much reverb/cutoff/resonance they are ... Until i move fader--->catch the value... That why i buy knobs with led to help me with that (like in oasys, or montage).
Hope you understand what i want....
@Traubitz, pls write if your method resolve my problem?
But something is not working like i want....
So i buy midi fighter twister. Compact 16 knobs.
I assign --- Function Assign to ch1 and cc00, ch2 cc01 and ch8 cc07.
So now i have all RT knows assign to 8 knobs.
I go to Prog mode, find some path... And i can control via my external midi fighter.... Until now everything is ok.
What is not? is when i change the path, the led dose not change...
It's like korg kronos not send RT to this device... I can control, the led change but after i touch. I need before to see where i am.
Maybe i should do try @Traubitz method...
Guys help...
I have 60 song -- 60 preset, and when i load from set list i don't know how much reverb/cutoff/resonance they are ... Until i move fader--->catch the value... That why i buy knobs with led to help me with that (like in oasys, or montage).
Hope you understand what i want....
@Traubitz, pls write if your method resolve my problem?
If your purpose is to control other devices with the Kronos control surface
My purpose is completly opossite --- Control some of parameter in Kronos by other devices, becouse other devices "knobs" have a led.
The controller is Midi figter twister (4x4 knob).
The easyiest idea, was assign RT knob to external device - it's work. But when i load a program, i cant see the value(light leds) in external controller.
If i turn the knob on external kontroller (example cutoff) the value changes, and is going light properly. And is ok, until i change preset.
Becouse value of new preset (cutoff) is diffrent. And i cant see where this is exactly.
The same controller with daw.:
Example you have frist song.: Send reverb 50% wet, send deley 15 % wet. You see that properly.
You open new song: now send reverb is 80% wet, send deley 0%. And you can see where you are exactly without touch, and catch the point of your deley. Like is in RT knob in kronos.
If i change from catch to jump, it's also bad. Becouse on first song you have 90% wet, and other 10%. So it's not subtle change movment knob. And propably the effect will be audible bad.
Advance idea was.:
So example
4 knob - Cutoff/Resonance/... //...
next 4 knob - ADSR
next 4 knob - Reverb/Deley/Distortion/Overdrive
next 4 knob - sidechain (pumping)/ tap tempo
Propably i can do that, but i have to assign all that parameter in program to external controller so is not so easy to implement that for 60 songs.
My purpose is completly opossite --- Control some of parameter in Kronos by other devices, becouse other devices "knobs" have a led.
The controller is Midi figter twister (4x4 knob).
The easyiest idea, was assign RT knob to external device - it's work. But when i load a program, i cant see the value(light leds) in external controller.
If i turn the knob on external kontroller (example cutoff) the value changes, and is going light properly. And is ok, until i change preset.
Becouse value of new preset (cutoff) is diffrent. And i cant see where this is exactly.
The same controller with daw.:
Example you have frist song.: Send reverb 50% wet, send deley 15 % wet. You see that properly.
You open new song: now send reverb is 80% wet, send deley 0%. And you can see where you are exactly without touch, and catch the point of your deley. Like is in RT knob in kronos.
If i change from catch to jump, it's also bad. Becouse on first song you have 90% wet, and other 10%. So it's not subtle change movment knob. And propably the effect will be audible bad.
Advance idea was.:
So example
4 knob - Cutoff/Resonance/... //...
next 4 knob - ADSR
next 4 knob - Reverb/Deley/Distortion/Overdrive
next 4 knob - sidechain (pumping)/ tap tempo
Propably i can do that, but i have to assign all that parameter in program to external controller so is not so easy to implement that for 60 songs.
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I don't think it works that way. The Kronos would have to send out all knob positions every time you changed a program or combi. Instead, it sends out the position of the knobs as you move them. There would be a lot of data going out every time you changed a program.
Perhaps there is something that could be done with sysex but I'm not that familiar with that aspect of Kronos MIDI.
Geo
Perhaps there is something that could be done with sysex but I'm not that familiar with that aspect of Kronos MIDI.
Geo
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@geoelectro - hope that is not true:).
So what is a difference between daw and kronos in midi/cc ?
In daw(ableton) example i can save song.
When i open one month latter my led on this knob are showing where was the last save.
So even if i move in other song, i don't have a mess with this what i have open already...
So what is a difference between daw and kronos in midi/cc ?
In daw(ableton) example i can save song.
When i open one month latter my led on this knob are showing where was the last save.
So even if i move in other song, i don't have a mess with this what i have open already...
What I explained is to use the Kronos to control other devices (such a soft synth) . I think I misunderstood what you're trying to do.
@alland's is probably the way you want to go.
I'm not sure there is an easy way to reset encoders to follow program changes using MIDI. It sounds like something you'd need a remote protocol similar to what advanced mixers with motorized faders use.
MIDI tends to be "jump to the value" of the remote knob or slider. You can try setting the knob/slider mode to "catch" (I think the default is "jump") in the global settings, basic setup page and see if that helps you. (I'm not sure it applies to remote knobs or just the ones on the Kronos itself.)
Catch means: "The value will begin changing only when you have
moved the controller surface controller to the position that
matches the current value."
HTH,
-T
@alland's is probably the way you want to go.
I'm not sure there is an easy way to reset encoders to follow program changes using MIDI. It sounds like something you'd need a remote protocol similar to what advanced mixers with motorized faders use.
MIDI tends to be "jump to the value" of the remote knob or slider. You can try setting the knob/slider mode to "catch" (I think the default is "jump") in the global settings, basic setup page and see if that helps you. (I'm not sure it applies to remote knobs or just the ones on the Kronos itself.)
Catch means: "The value will begin changing only when you have
moved the controller surface controller to the position that
matches the current value."
HTH,
-T
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I connected OASYS as a controller to KRONOS. KRONOS - in the sequencer mode. I managed to use sliders (backlit) OASYS to control sliders KRONOS. But there are great limitations. External Controller Slider (OASYS) - controls all KRONOS sliders assigned to the corresponding midi channel. That is, if I use several programs on the same MIDI channel in the sequencer, then the slider of the external controller controls them all. Command to the slider of the external controller is CC007. Other commands do not work.
Some time ago I tried VST organ B4. In this proramma has a learning mode. That is, in this mode - I choose the parameter B4, which I need to assign control of the external controller. Then I move this controller. And all - the regulator works! Apparently, here we need SYSEX messages. If CORG envisaged this regime, then it would be very simple to do so.
Some time ago I tried VST organ B4. In this proramma has a learning mode. That is, in this mode - I choose the parameter B4, which I need to assign control of the external controller. Then I move this controller. And all - the regulator works! Apparently, here we need SYSEX messages. If CORG envisaged this regime, then it would be very simple to do so.