How to record audio from sound module in PA4X?

Fransman · Post by **Fransman** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:52 pm

I have a sound module (Korg TR Rack) connected to my PA4X.
It's midi'd to Upper 3 on channel 3 & my module receives midi on channel 3.

This works fine for playing in Style mode, I use it all the time.

In sequencer mode, when I play to make a recording (backing sequence / quick record), I can hear the sound from my module on Upper 3.
Just like playing in Style mode.
BUT: when I play back my recording in the sequencer, the audio from my module can no longer be heard.

I've had a look at the midi and audio settings, but whatever I try, I don't hear the audio from my module in Sequencer play mode.
When I make an mp3 of it: of course also no sound from my sound module.

I'm stuck. Anyone any idea to put me on the right track? Thanks in advance!

Stilli · Post by **Stilli** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:37 pm

Hope i'm not teaching you to suck eggs but ....

How have you connected the Audio outputs from the module? If they don't go into the Korg PA's inputs then you will get no sound from the module to record. You are only telling the module to play via midi, the sound output from the module is going wherever you have connected the audio outputs to (mixer?), no sound is transmitted over midi only data.

Marcel Munter · Post by **Marcel Munter** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:57 pm

globel midi midi out player chanel 1/16 ??

Fransman · Post by **Fransman** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:04 pm

Stilli wrote:Hope i'm not teaching you to suck eggs but ....

How have you connected the Audio outputs from the module? If they don't go into the Korg PA's inputs then you will get no sound from the module to record. You are only telling the module to play via midi, the sound output from the module is going wherever you have connected the audio outputs to (mixer?), no sound is transmitted over midi only data.

Thanks for your help, I really appreciate it.

The audio outputs from my module go to Line In 1 of PA4X.
As I mentioned, in Style mode, I can use and hear the sound of the module (both with my headphones and on the PAas speaker), so the audio from my module comes into the PA4X.

In sequencer mode, when I play (in backing sequence), I can also hear the sound from the module.
I've tested that with all tracks muted, except the external source track (in my case Upper 3).

The track just doesn't play back when I play the recording... then I don't hear the sound from my module anymore (?)

What is going wrong here, any idea?

Fransman · Post by **Fransman** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:07 pm

Marcel Munter wrote:globel midi midi out player chanel 1/16 ??

I have global midi out, channel 3 set to Upper 3.
My module is receiving from channel 3.
Audio out from module goes to Line In 1 from PA4X

As I mentioned, I can play and hear audio from my module when playing in Style mode.

Stilli · Post by **Stilli** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:27 pm

You said you had checked the Audio connections but have you got the outputs routed to L+R as in Page 509 of the manual?

"Enabling the line audio input for MP3 recording
Go to the Global > Audio & Video > Audio In page, and be sure the Audio In
parameter is set to Line.
In the same page, be sure the Audio Out parameter is set to L + R.
This will send the line inputs to the internal MP3 recorder, and disconnects
the Mic input."

It will not record to mp3 if the Line input is routed to outputs 1 + 2

Just a thought.

Marcel Munter · Post by **Marcel Munter** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:04 pm

in seqencer mode set midi out channel 3 to player 1
then you hear your module

seaside · Post by **seaside** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:07 pm

Hi Frans,I don't do any of this myself,but should you select line in ? instead of Mic ,in global audio and video setting.Just a thought-Terry

Fransman · Post by **Fransman** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:42 pm

Stilli wrote:You said you had checked the Audio connections but have you got the outputs routed to L+R as in Page 509 of the manual?

"Enabling the line audio input for MP3 recording
Go to the Global > Audio & Video > Audio In page, and be sure the Audio In
parameter is set to Line.
In the same page, be sure the Audio Out parameter is set to L + R.
This will send the line inputs to the internal MP3 recorder, and disconnects
the Mic input."

It will not record to mp3 if the Line input is routed to outputs 1 + 2

Just a thought.

Thanks for your help!
Yes, these settings are all as stated in the manual (I double checked, but I had configured this OK already).
So still no sound from my module when playing back a recording.

Fransman · Post by **Fransman** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:55 pm

Marcel Munter wrote:in seqencer mode set midi out channel 3 to player 1
then you hear your module

Hi Marcel, yep, you nailed it on the head, that is the trick, thank you so much for helping me out.

So I need to change this everytime in Global - Midi (from Up3 to player 1, track 3) when I made a recording, right?
And then, for making the recording, change it back to Up3?

Kind of unlogical to me... but, hey, it works!

Or is there a way/trick to configure this automatically or more permanent?
(So you don't have to think of it all the time?)
In Global - Midi - Midi Out channel you can only pick one of them.

Fransman · Post by **Fransman** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:58 pm

seaside wrote:Hi Frans,I don't do any of this myself,but should you select line in ? instead of Mic ,in global audio and video setting.Just a thought-Terry

Thanks Terry, for your help.
Yes, I've selected Line In.
See posts above.

Thanks to Marcel, the solution is found.

Marcel Munter · Post by **Marcel Munter** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:31 pm

in the pa4 it's only possible to make several midi programs
everytime when you change playmodes you must change
your midi programs

Fransman · Post by **Fransman** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:07 am

Loud and clear, Marcel, thanks again.

I just have to think of the Global - Midi - Midi Out settings for track 3 while recording and playing back.

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