Volca keys more than 1 bar

chidalgo · Post by **chidalgo** » Sun May 19, 2019 7:56 am

Hi everyone, I'm new here but I'm sure you are gonna help me a lot!
I have recently bought a volca keys and I know now a lot about it but I don't know how (apart from changing 1/1, 1/2, 1/4) can I have more than one bar. I have watched a video that says 8 bars! but doesn't explain how.
Thanks a lot!!!

ShoNuff · Post by **ShoNuff** » Sun May 19, 2019 6:50 pm

Flux mode gives 8 (i think) notes per step.

TheDoctor · Post by **TheDoctor** » Sun May 19, 2019 7:43 pm

ShoNuff wrote:Flux mode gives 8 (i think) notes per step.

Wrong!
You can have 1/1 which every step is a 16th
1/2 every step is 8th
4/4 every step is a whole 4th
Flux just give you that amount of time but unquantize, so you can have 1/1 1 bar, 1/2 2 bar, 4/4 4 bars.
If you put half the bpm and stay in 4/4 tempo with Flux you basically have 8 bars unquantize.
That's basic sequencer, bpm stuff guys!

ShoNuff · Post by **ShoNuff** » Sun May 19, 2019 7:55 pm

TheDoctor wrote:
ShoNuff wrote:Flux mode gives 8 (i think) notes per step.
That's basic sequencer, bpm stuff guys!

hold on a sec': i also though Flux was just plain un-quantized. maybe it is.
but there's a youtube demo with someone doing a longer intricate sequence,
where he says you can get 8 notes into 1 step with Flux mode.

knew about 1/1 - 1/2 - 1/4, of course...

i find it quite a frustrating sequencer design really. unquantized isn't much use.
the interesting possibility seemed to be to use Flux mode to do 1 step at a
time with Active Step, and have 16 little arpeggios stored in one pattern,
enabling 1 at a time, or making new chains of notes/arps recombining steps.
i think this could be very cool with midi out fitted, recording the output into
another sequencer.

ShoNuff · Post by **ShoNuff** » Sun May 19, 2019 7:59 pm

basically we have to find that video again.

i supposed one lazy way to test it would be to enable Step Trigger; that
seems to repeat notes regularly. (soz have been messing around with the FM
lately, so have forgotten a bit about Keys)

chidalgo · Post by **chidalgo** » Sun May 19, 2019 8:57 pm

Thanks a lot, It was helpful!!

chidalgo · Post by **chidalgo** » Sun May 19, 2019 9:03 pm

This is the video, I don't get how he does it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIgJabY809U

ShoNuff · Post by **ShoNuff** » Sun May 19, 2019 9:16 pm

haha best volca Keys video yet. that was not the one i'd seen.
love the latin thing. very good.

chidalgo · Post by **chidalgo** » Sun May 19, 2019 9:52 pm

Hahaha, still dont know hoy he Does it

ShoNuff · Post by **ShoNuff** » Mon May 20, 2019 5:58 pm

here's another one of his videos, doing chops on volca sample.
going to have to watch it again to get those numbers @ 4.26

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfyPd1X6rX8

here they are anyway. don't know how he settled on those:
step
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16
start value
0 8 17 26 35 44 53 61 70 79 87 96 104 113 122 127

LM · Post by LM » Tue May 21, 2019 2:01 am

The Sample trick brings back memories of how Recycle used to do it back in the days.

In other words: if you play around with the start points on each step, you can actually create different loops by rearranging the order of the segments.

ShoNuff · Post by **ShoNuff** » Tue May 21, 2019 5:12 am

here's another long-ish sequence. still not the one i was looking for.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cIDA4XCZdI

of course, the way to get a maximum number of notes into it is to make a
sequence on eg: computer, and send notes in sync recorded over MIDI with
Flux mode on.

if Flux mode gives 8 steps, that's 16x8=128
that's 8 bars quantized at 16ths.

playing notes in at 1/1 rate will give the impression it's unquantized, i suppose.

too early for me to try to figure out what max resolution is at 1/1,1/2,1/4...

in fact, i find this sequencer a bit frustrating. reckon it could be better to do
MIDI out on other volcas, and use them to write into the Keys.
?