How many user samples can PA5X load?

moebrand · Post by **moebrand** » Fri Jul 01, 2022 4:32 pm

Hi everyone,
With the excitement and maze of new pa5x , I wonder if there is a limit for numbers of user samples it can load .
If I am not mistaken PA4x can load up to 15000 samples , if the pa5x has such limitations I think 4GB or 8 GB memory for compressed samples doesn’t help or mean anything.

menara · Post by **menara** » Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:22 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8pR3hyAl4U

Someone said in the comments that the number of user sample slots is 30068 for the PA5X.

Marco Filipe · Post by **Marco Filipe** » Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:22 am

I don't understand why korg puts these kind of limitations.

menara · Post by **menara** » Wed Jul 06, 2022 7:57 pm

Marco Filipe wrote:I don't understand why korg puts these kind of limitations.

The same limitation is applied by Yamaha in the Genos, with the notable difference that Yamaha do not specify this limitation in the specs.

I guess, increasing the sample slots slows down the reactivity of the keyboard. But, if the "old" Genos has 32768 slots for 3Gb of compressed ram, it's curious that the Pa5x has only 30060 sample slors for 12 Gb (if we add the user and local ram).

This point is critical because, in some countries, the Korg arrangers are used manly as samplers. Some people were even asking for the ability to delete the internal sounds in ordrer to retrieve some slot sample.

We should maybe create a poll to tell Korg what should be the max sample number on a Pa5x.

In another hand, dealing with 30k samples is all ready a real mess without a proper software. All Pa5x should be sold with a free licence of a well known french software.

korgpask · Post by **korgpask** » Thu Jul 14, 2022 10:35 am

SET from Pa4X to Pa5X

RAM info:

Manual info:

musiccankill · Post by **musiccankill** » Thu Jul 14, 2022 4:13 pm

menara wrote:
Marco Filipe wrote:I don't understand why korg puts these kind of limitations.
The same limitation is applied by Yamaha in the Genos, with the notable difference that Yamaha do not specify this limitation in the specs.

I guess, increasing the sample slots slows down the reactivity of the keyboard. But, if the "old" Genos has 32768 slots for 3Gb of compressed ram, it's curious that the Pa5x has only 30060 sample slors for 12 Gb (if we add the user and local ram).

This point is critical because, in some countries, the Korg arrangers are used manly as samplers. Some people were even asking for the ability to delete the internal sounds in ordrer to retrieve some slot sample.

We should maybe create a poll to tell Korg what should be the max sample number on a Pa5x.

In another hand, dealing with 30k samples is all ready a real mess without a proper software. All Pa5x should be sold with a free licence of a well known french software.

Can you PM me which software you are referencing to as i can't really find any software able to work with pa5x files yet?

korgpask · Post by **korgpask** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 7:45 pm

the photo shows 30060 samples
sample size 2.5 GB

the manual says 4GB uncompressed, equivalent to 8GB compression

Nemik · Post by **Nemik** » Sat Jul 16, 2022 5:32 am

@korgpask do I really have to do linking to your posts a years ago how you compliant about P4x?
WTF is wrong with you?
calm down a little please, could you? or in future after few year, when next product Korg arrive you gonna bitching all over again?

AntonySharmman · Post by **AntonySharmman** » Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:55 am

korgpask wrote:SET from Pa4X to Pa5X

This can also happen in Pa4X when one or more samples have reached max size limit !
Pa3X and older models had a bit bigger max size sample limit , and maybe Pa5X has a bit lower sample size limit than Pa4X (not checked yet)
nothing to do with the overall size of custom set conversion that is for sure smaller than current OS 2,5/5 Gb limit.

Hope this helps

korgpask · Post by **korgpask** » Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:50 pm

Nemik wrote:@korgpask do I really have to do linking to your posts a years ago how you compliant about P4x?
WTF is wrong with you?
calm down a little please, could you? or in future after few year, when next product Korg arrive you gonna bitching all over again?

I'm not complaining, is it bad that I showed the real data? And the data bound by the manual?
I love Korg, I'm interested in discussion, ideas, solutions, share experiences good-bad