I’ll answer any question you have about the 5x…

[Asena]

Actually it is way better in hardware than pa4x and pa1000 hdmi (these are different)...
Pa1000 hdmi was already on a newer platform similar to pa5x but with some missing hardware functions where the most important one is the dual DSP setup. (PA700/1000 HDMI version have AM5718 cpu while PA5X has AM5728).
AM5728 is way more than double the performance of the PA4X!

Now its sound is currently better but very close to the PA4X (it gets better mostly because of the extra effects).
The OS feels ALPHA compile not even BETA as it has way too many missing functions...

Another bug a friend of mine found is that when you convert a set , Intro 1 and ending 1 are playing like they have a prerecorded chord sequence and it is not even close to the pressed chord...
I have found some too like , if you let a style play and press the REC/EDIT button and go into sound edit or sample edit (not sure they are named exactly like that as i m not in front of the keyboard right now) , the style doesn't stop and you have to go back to stop it as no buttons that are for controlling the style are working on that mode...
I have an already big list of bugs at my home studio where the 5x is...
For sure i m not happy with what i got but i knew what i was getting so i will not complain.
Anybody that was expecting a working keyboard when he/she got it , as it should have been , has every right to complain and even return it if he/she wants...
First of all saying that it has 4Gb (8 Compressed) but the actual size to be 2.5 and 5 respectively is even against the law here..
Another wrong specification they have listed is that it has 800X600 pixels lcd resolution..
This is correct for korg kronos , not for pa5x...
Pa5x has 800X480 and that is what is specified inside the OS initialization scripts too (there are no widescreen LCDs with 800x600 resolution anyway)....

We have a long journey ahead of us which will be worth it at the end of the road for sure , but for now this keyboard is almost unplayable...

And yes i can confirm that encrypted sets (USB/SDcard locked) do NOT work...
In fact i was the one who figured out in my country before anybody wrote about it online even here...
And here i have to think...What did all the "beta testers" do all these time?
These are very very simple bugs for them to not having found them..
So they just didn't do anything apart from leaking info and playing with it...

Well very good explanation indeed,I was expecting much much more from Korg like Bluetooth Wi-Fi, Audio over USB ,audio loops and more.
And I don’t think it will be there because of the behavior from the keyboard.
I just wonder how the heck you can load Sound font 2 files like
We do on the Kronos!!!
All at once, all layers
Like in genos yem!
Is it even possible?

[duby2]

When my pa4x and pa1000 . go dead ... it look like genos..

korg pa5x is just copy the Genos It looks like the same set up .. korg just added 16 pads...

and the weight for Genos is 28 lb and pa5 wint up to 33 lb ..5 more lb of BS...

Genos screen size 9-inch and pa5 8- inch.

genos has software and Apps ..
same old OS and take away things we like ,because they know better.

the days of korg makeing great keyboards look bad ...after the i3 and pa80 ,pa800. pax1.pa2x
pa3x.. pa4x
now the pa5x genos little brother... it does not look good... I hope I am wrong ...
oh korg will add more later..check in the mail
. LOL

[kleant]

I think new owners are being very forgiving and hopefull with Pa5X and praying than soon it will get better which should have been on the launch for a £3700+ product! Propably some things in the future software wise will get polished or get better however some familiar functions/buttons/knobs from previous models have been cut forever as its clearly visible and can not be implemented back!

I don't like the strip display or at least the way it is utilised at the moment, they have thrown every features and missing functions to it which is a lot and its confused to remember which strip or button does, plus is not practical if u need to use them in combination example the drawbars mixer etc. You constantly have to look and switch at the strip display to view and remember what it stands and controls of. Basically it is a bad copy example of Genos which in comparison at least have some knobs attached for more direct control and a bigger strip display with deticated buttons to access directly the strip or knobs control whereas on the Pa5X is only 1 small round button to switch through different view modes.

I don't think anybody has complained in the past about the Pa4X and previous models pannels and I don't think it needed any major "simplyfing" it was great as it was. They could have merged/implemented all the new functions around them but instead they have gone for a simple approach just take completely some section off which is a great shame.

More diging in to Pa5X more problems and a very big one seems to be the lag between switching and selecting a style not acceptable! It seems this is apparent for all styles even factory ones but more on user styles converted from previous models.

A bit confused about the matrix as well on 1 side we have 4 pads similar as previous models and on the other side we have 16 matrix pads which basically function similar as the 4 pads.

A bit harsh but I was hoping for an upgrade not a downgrade from Pa4X.

[archil]

First of all saying that it has 4Gb (8 Compressed) but the actual size to be 2.5 and 5 respectively is even against the law here..

Ouch, that's not good at all...

[pawlikp100]

A bit confused about the matrix as well on 1 side we have 4 pads similar as previous models and on the other side we have 16 matrix pads which basically function similar as the 4 pads.

In my opinion this feature is not ready yet. It looks like Korg put those pads but without any idea how we can use it in the future.
At this moment it duplicate some functionalities.
Let's give Korg some idea for these 16 pads.
My idea is to use those pads as 16 registrations (Performance memories) like in Yamaha Genos with ability to save it into Songbook.


I was convinced we could use this to record easly drums for styles or to active favourite keyboardSets from here (but favourite keyboardSets could be visible as a matrix on the screen like in Kronos)
Do you have any idea how these pads could be use in the future?

[kleant]

Exactly, that's why I'm confused I don't mind they can be used as additional pads but were usually pads shine in my opinion is the ability to create or control/manipulate drums/beats in real time or even merge them with some Kaos FX, if Korg have run out of ideas they should have looked at Akai Mpc example and steel some ideas there. Sorry but again it looks like a bad copy of a mpc with smaller pads which can be easely hit two by mistake. mpc key have similar number of pads but big and more strong looking with a lot of more functions.

At the moment on Pa5X seems like let's throw some pads there and put some led on it and hope for the best.

[pawlikp100]

1. Does the SonkBook save status of sliders MODE and buttons like mute/unmute?
2. Is it possible to set default KeyboardSET other then KeyboardSet 1, when load SonkBook entry?
3. What happened if you try to load one songbook entry based on style while you are playing other style based on second songbook entry? Will the instrument behave like in case of 2 midi songs from the songbook in korg pa4x, that is load second songbook entry to the unused player?
4. How many Round Robin drumSETS is in the pa5x?
5. How does it look sorting files (styles) on the list styles window? Are those styles sorted alphabetically?
6. Because the styles now are not loaded to the own location (cells), Is that mean songbook seeks the name of the style in the folder with such style? (No more direct file reference?)

[davekalbach]

Do you have any idea how these pads could be use in the future?

Just a note from the Adam and Luke demo yesterday. They plan on hosting a webinar covering the Matrix.

One item in particular was they "Luke" found a way to program a button to a WAV/MP3. That could be very useful (Thinking Depeche Mode)

[martinbaba]

Hello Niki
Can you please confirm if the below scenarios can be done.

Scenario 1.
All acc to be assigned to output L/R.
Drum, assigned to output 1/2.
Bass, assigned to output 3.
Microphone, assigned to output 4.

Scenario 2 (if you cant assign bass and mic to mono channels)
Same as scenario 1 with difference, bass and mic to be assigned to output 3/4 with the bass hard pan left and mic, hard pan right.

Thanks in advance.

[pawlikp100]

1. Does the SonkBook save status of sliders MODE and buttons like mute/unmute?
2. Is it possible to set default KeyboardSET other then KeyboardSet 1, when load SonkBook entry?
3. What happened if you try to load one songbook entry based on style while you are playing other style based on second songbook entry? Will the instrument behave like in case of 2 midi songs from the songbook in korg pa4x, that is load second songbook entry to the unused player?
4. How many Round Robin drumSETS is in the pa5x?
5. How does it look sorting files (styles) on the list styles window? Are those styles sorted alphabetically?
6. Because the styles now are not loaded to the own location (cells), Is that mean songbook seeks the name of the style in the folder with such style? (No more direct file reference?)

Niki, please also try to find some time and answer my questions

[Niki_Keyz]

Sorry guys. I’ve been traveling from state to state for a few weddings. I will try to get to your questions by tomorrow. I have my 5x at the house. I was using the 4x this weekend. Might be until next year I finally get to use the 5x on stage.

[davekalbach]

Hello Niki
Can you please confirm if the below scenarios can be done.

Scenario 1.
All acc to be assigned to output L/R.
Drum, assigned to output 1/2.
Bass, assigned to output 3.
Microphone, assigned to output 4.

Scenario 2 (if you cant assign bass and mic to mono channels)
Same as scenario 1 with difference, bass and mic to be assigned to output 3/4 with the bass hard pan left and mic, hard pan right.

Thanks in advance.

I can answer part of this for you.

All ACC can be assigned to L/R Outputs (Or Paired, Or Mono 1-4)
Drums can be assigned (same as above)
Bass (same as above)
Mic appears to be only Stereo (L/R or Stereo Pairs 1-2, 3-4)
Guitar and Line In (same as Mic)

Scenario 2 Sounds Do-Able - but I haven't tested it.

[martinbaba]

Hello Niki
Can you please confirm if the below scenarios can be done.

Scenario 1.
All acc to be assigned to output L/R.
Drum, assigned to output 1/2.
Bass, assigned to output 3.
Microphone, assigned to output 4.

Scenario 2 (if you cant assign bass and mic to mono channels)
Same as scenario 1 with difference, bass and mic to be assigned to output 3/4 with the bass hard pan left and mic, hard pan right.

Thanks in advance.

I can answer part of this for you.

All ACC can be assigned to L/R Outputs (Or Paired, Or Mono 1-4)
Drums can be assigned (same as above)
Bass (same as above)
Mic appears to be only Stereo (L/R or Stereo Pairs 1-2, 3-4)
Guitar and Line In (same as Mic)

Scenario 2 Sounds Do-Able - but I haven't tested it.

Many thanks.
I would appreciate your confirmation on second scenario.

[davekalbach]

Scenario 2 (if you cant assign bass and mic to mono channels)
Same as scenario 1 with difference, bass and mic to be assigned to output 3/4 with the bass hard pan left and mic, hard pan right.

OK - Scenario 2 Works

I want to be clear on my testing method though. I changed SETTINGS/PLAYER1 Drums and Bass (Channels 9 and 10) to Outputs 3 and 4. I used my L/R Out cables as they are already connected to a mixer/recorder and moved them to Outputs 3 and 4.

Pan Full Left on Channel 9, Full Right on Channel 10. From there I watched my Mixer Tracks and Saw the Bass and Drums coming in on their respective Channels. I then MUTED each channel individually to ensure nothing bled through.

You would need to do this to both Players if you wanted the same capability on Player 2.

But this definitely worked for me.

[martinbaba]

Scenario 2 (if you cant assign bass and mic to mono channels)
Same as scenario 1 with difference, bass and mic to be assigned to output 3/4 with the bass hard pan left and mic, hard pan right.

OK - Scenario 2 Works

I want to be clear on my testing method though. I changed SETTINGS/PLAYER1 Drums and Bass (Channels 9 and 10) to Outputs 3 and 4. I used my L/R Out cables as they are already connected to a mixer/recorder and moved them to Outputs 3 and 4.

Pan Full Left on Channel 9, Full Right on Channel 10. From there I watched my Mixer Tracks and Saw the Bass and Drums coming in on their respective Channels. I then MUTED each channel individually to ensure nothing bled through.

You would need to do this to both Players if you wanted the same capability on Player 2.

But this definitely worked for me.

thank you but I was asking for microphone.
can you pan the microphone hard pan right?
(drums should be stereo)