PA5x - suggested changes & enhancements for 1.2.1 only
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PA5x - suggested changes & enhancements for 1.2.1 only
All the things you believe should be addressed (not bugs) or re-instated etc...etc...
or, by all means, create your own topics for discussions...
THANKS
or, by all means, create your own topics for discussions...
THANKS
Last edited by karmathanever on Wed Jul 03, 2024 7:11 am, edited 7 times in total.
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Removed original post as a workaround has been pointed out...
My observations from this original post have been updated here for clarity in a later post below
http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... 3d33eb538f
My observations from this original post have been updated here for clarity in a later post below
http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... 3d33eb538f
Last edited by D575 on Wed Jul 27, 2022 9:53 pm, edited 4 times in total.
Korg PA5X-76 : Yamaha Montage M8x : Roland Jupiter 80 : Waldorf STVC : Roland Integra 7 : Waldorf Streichfett : Berhinger VC340 : Berhinger Solina : Focal Trio6 ST6 : Studio Outboards/RME Audio Interface/A&H SQ-5 Mixer : Omnisphere 2 : Cherry Audio Korg PS-3300 : Waves IDX : Kraftur & Gullfoss : Cradle God Particle : Sonarworks Sound-ID Ref : Cubase 14
Buttons on control panel > UPPER OCTAVE and TRANSPOSE do not mirror the control panel position at the top of the main screen...the screen positions need reversing... otherwise this can be confusing.
Last edited by D575 on Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:13 am, edited 1 time in total.
Korg PA5X-76 : Yamaha Montage M8x : Roland Jupiter 80 : Waldorf STVC : Roland Integra 7 : Waldorf Streichfett : Berhinger VC340 : Berhinger Solina : Focal Trio6 ST6 : Studio Outboards/RME Audio Interface/A&H SQ-5 Mixer : Omnisphere 2 : Cherry Audio Korg PS-3300 : Waves IDX : Kraftur & Gullfoss : Cradle God Particle : Sonarworks Sound-ID Ref : Cubase 14
Missing from PA4X... Individual parts on the main screen (lower, upper 1,2 and 3) no longer display the individual OCTAVE position...would be useful to have this back otherwise you have to keep opening mixer for this information.
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Korg PA5X-76 : Yamaha Montage M8x : Roland Jupiter 80 : Waldorf STVC : Roland Integra 7 : Waldorf Streichfett : Berhinger VC340 : Berhinger Solina : Focal Trio6 ST6 : Studio Outboards/RME Audio Interface/A&H SQ-5 Mixer : Omnisphere 2 : Cherry Audio Korg PS-3300 : Waves IDX : Kraftur & Gullfoss : Cradle God Particle : Sonarworks Sound-ID Ref : Cubase 14
Global settings > "LOCKS" is a light version compared to PA4X for instance... FX Lock is now missing...etc etc.
Last edited by D575 on Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:49 am, edited 2 times in total.
Korg PA5X-76 : Yamaha Montage M8x : Roland Jupiter 80 : Waldorf STVC : Roland Integra 7 : Waldorf Streichfett : Berhinger VC340 : Berhinger Solina : Focal Trio6 ST6 : Studio Outboards/RME Audio Interface/A&H SQ-5 Mixer : Omnisphere 2 : Cherry Audio Korg PS-3300 : Waves IDX : Kraftur & Gullfoss : Cradle God Particle : Sonarworks Sound-ID Ref : Cubase 14
All the Buttons on the control panel need a Dimmer Function in Global-Setting the same as the Main screen, O-LED Strip and the Back-lit controls (although matrix is not working at the moment) in darken studios etc, you can not read the panel labels as the buttons coloured LED lights are to (((Bright)))...a Global-Settings control function to be added would be useful.
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Korg PA5X-76 : Yamaha Montage M8x : Roland Jupiter 80 : Waldorf STVC : Roland Integra 7 : Waldorf Streichfett : Berhinger VC340 : Berhinger Solina : Focal Trio6 ST6 : Studio Outboards/RME Audio Interface/A&H SQ-5 Mixer : Omnisphere 2 : Cherry Audio Korg PS-3300 : Waves IDX : Kraftur & Gullfoss : Cradle God Particle : Sonarworks Sound-ID Ref : Cubase 14
** Midi file import to Style elements..Not to the whole style (Eg: for V1cv1 etc)
** All style edit functions as in Pa4X (Copy, Delete etc)
All I expect from the Pa5x is more polyphony, More audio outputs which is there already, better style engine and a sound engine with ALL the functions already available in Pa4x...
** All style edit functions as in Pa4X (Copy, Delete etc)
All I expect from the Pa5x is more polyphony, More audio outputs which is there already, better style engine and a sound engine with ALL the functions already available in Pa4x...
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Bring back the main Home Screen mixer where we have “drums, bass, Acc….lower and 3 uppers” levels kn the screen at all times. I feel like now you have to swap through pages.
Also on the same Home Screen, you should be able to track select from there and see what sounds and drum kits are being used on each track and not the way it is right now where you have to go to menu and another menu and another page. Really annoying.
Also on the same Home Screen, you should be able to track select from there and see what sounds and drum kits are being used on each track and not the way it is right now where you have to go to menu and another menu and another page. Really annoying.
- piotrek_muzyk
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Acc Bass level sliders etc on home page, Audio Recorder USB, Piano Roll, Expandable Midi Edition, Midi Converter is Style Enhanced.
In general, I would like to meet the man who threw the sliders with the volume levels on the home page. Ok, we have an additional screen but it is too narrow and we do not see the levels permanently only for the moment when we move the slider. This is a complete lack of ergonomics as in new cars with touch control everywhere
In general, I would like to meet the man who threw the sliders with the volume levels on the home page. Ok, we have an additional screen but it is too narrow and we do not see the levels permanently only for the moment when we move the slider. This is a complete lack of ergonomics as in new cars with touch control everywhere
Pa4x 76 << Pa3x 76 << Pa2x Pro << Pa1x << Pa60
user scale problem
I have a problem with one type of sounds - thirds (double-voiced C major, C minor, D major, D minor, etc.) made through an oscillator (also the same thing is happen with ensemble-DUAL) and using a user scale.
Problem is: If I don't hold a chord with my left hand or use a style to play a song, "Thirds" work well on all notes. But if I start with the harmony on the left hand, as I change the tonality (chords), some of the notes change and it doesn't sound right.
I don't remember very well if one of the earlier PA keyboards had this problem in the early stages.(Pa3x or Pa4x)
Are some options required in lock like Lock option: SubScale/QuarterTone and others. Do you know anything for this problem?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd1KI_epEdc
Problem is: If I don't hold a chord with my left hand or use a style to play a song, "Thirds" work well on all notes. But if I start with the harmony on the left hand, as I change the tonality (chords), some of the notes change and it doesn't sound right.
I don't remember very well if one of the earlier PA keyboards had this problem in the early stages.(Pa3x or Pa4x)
Are some options required in lock like Lock option: SubScale/QuarterTone and others. Do you know anything for this problem?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd1KI_epEdc
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>Estimated converting time from .SET to .KST: 2 hours (500Mb set) There has to be a faster way to fix this. Really annoying since everyone is coming from the pa4x and we have sets that we would like to take things from. Imagine trying to convert 4 sets....you would waste your whole day just converting.
>Loading same set on keyboard: 20-25 min. After converting, KST (SET files) take over 25 min to actually load them.
>Pads of screen should not act as a play button. When clicking on a pad on the screen, it should open the menu for you to select another pad like on every previous model.
>Home Screen needs mixer at all times. For live performers, we need levels of our drums, bass, accompaniments, lower and uppers on the screen the whole time. We don’t have the time to look and switch pages for this.
> There should be a setting in global where we can change to home screen back to the 4x home screen. It will make users super comfortable using the keyboard. Meaning having the same mixer on the home screen and all the tabs that were at the bottom. The pa4x or 3x I believe have something like this already and its called easy mode.
>We should have a preference of not having the lists of styles, sounds and pads be in alphabetical order. People had these organized on the 4x into separate folders and pages.
>If you are used to having a certain sound or drum kit you like on (user 1, page 3), you know it’s there 100% and you learn it that way. Not anymore, because everything is alphabetical order, things will move every time you add a new sound, pad, style, song, drumkit, etc. complete disaster if you know where your things are.
>When making a new style, the menus for quantize, delete, velocity, cut and others are missing. How can you create a new style if these functions are missing on this $5k machine.
>The bass should not be the first in order. Every keyboard since day 1 has it as follows….drums-percs-bass-acc1-acc2-acc3-acc4-acc5.
>We need an option to customize your own keyboard. There are photos for every sound and drumkit next to it. You cannot select the photo you want when saving a new sound or style. Color schemes were great on the pa3x. It sets the mood for the musician playing. Imagine now having that option on the 5x with the quality of the screen today.
>Website says we have 4GB and 8GB compressed but the keyboard shows we have 2.5GB. Not even close to what Korg is advertising on their website. If you think your going to have 4GB of space when buying this keyboard, you’re going to be extremely upset to find out you have only 2.5GB of space. This is false advertising. How they are getting away with this is mind blowing.
>There should be an option on the main Home Screen from the drop menu to show only one style instead of two. Not everyone will be using two styles since they can’t even sync them perfectly anyways. It would be nice if you hold shift and play on the style for it to sync with tempo and for it to start perfectly with the current style playing.
>There is no Kaoss.
>There is no option for midi to style converter.
>Locked sets will not work nor convert.
>There are factory styles that are still on here from the pa80. The house, dance, techno are not from this century. They are indeed what they say they are but not anywhere near the year 2022. So when you select dance, it is dance, just not this year. More like 1998 dance.
>Korg needs to stop changing the format of extensions for styles, sets, sounds, etc. The person buying the pa5x is 99.9% coming from a 4x. And that person also came from a 3x and so on. It was already annoying enough that you couldn’t load 3x sets on the 4x without loading the folders separately. Now it’s just a jumble mess for people trying to switch over to a keyboard they thought they were familiar with.
>Loading same set on keyboard: 20-25 min. After converting, KST (SET files) take over 25 min to actually load them.
>Pads of screen should not act as a play button. When clicking on a pad on the screen, it should open the menu for you to select another pad like on every previous model.
>Home Screen needs mixer at all times. For live performers, we need levels of our drums, bass, accompaniments, lower and uppers on the screen the whole time. We don’t have the time to look and switch pages for this.
> There should be a setting in global where we can change to home screen back to the 4x home screen. It will make users super comfortable using the keyboard. Meaning having the same mixer on the home screen and all the tabs that were at the bottom. The pa4x or 3x I believe have something like this already and its called easy mode.
>We should have a preference of not having the lists of styles, sounds and pads be in alphabetical order. People had these organized on the 4x into separate folders and pages.
>If you are used to having a certain sound or drum kit you like on (user 1, page 3), you know it’s there 100% and you learn it that way. Not anymore, because everything is alphabetical order, things will move every time you add a new sound, pad, style, song, drumkit, etc. complete disaster if you know where your things are.
>When making a new style, the menus for quantize, delete, velocity, cut and others are missing. How can you create a new style if these functions are missing on this $5k machine.
>The bass should not be the first in order. Every keyboard since day 1 has it as follows….drums-percs-bass-acc1-acc2-acc3-acc4-acc5.
>We need an option to customize your own keyboard. There are photos for every sound and drumkit next to it. You cannot select the photo you want when saving a new sound or style. Color schemes were great on the pa3x. It sets the mood for the musician playing. Imagine now having that option on the 5x with the quality of the screen today.
>Website says we have 4GB and 8GB compressed but the keyboard shows we have 2.5GB. Not even close to what Korg is advertising on their website. If you think your going to have 4GB of space when buying this keyboard, you’re going to be extremely upset to find out you have only 2.5GB of space. This is false advertising. How they are getting away with this is mind blowing.
>There should be an option on the main Home Screen from the drop menu to show only one style instead of two. Not everyone will be using two styles since they can’t even sync them perfectly anyways. It would be nice if you hold shift and play on the style for it to sync with tempo and for it to start perfectly with the current style playing.
>There is no Kaoss.
>There is no option for midi to style converter.
>Locked sets will not work nor convert.
>There are factory styles that are still on here from the pa80. The house, dance, techno are not from this century. They are indeed what they say they are but not anywhere near the year 2022. So when you select dance, it is dance, just not this year. More like 1998 dance.
>Korg needs to stop changing the format of extensions for styles, sets, sounds, etc. The person buying the pa5x is 99.9% coming from a 4x. And that person also came from a 3x and so on. It was already annoying enough that you couldn’t load 3x sets on the 4x without loading the folders separately. Now it’s just a jumble mess for people trying to switch over to a keyboard they thought they were familiar with.
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- Factory sounds, drums, styles, pads can be modified and saved to their original location! (For my previous instruments, I modified and expanded them according to my taste!)
- MIDI editing and creation functions should be there, just like pa4x! (This is very important for my work, but I think for others too!)
- "Kick and Snare Designation" should be available (even MIDI files could have this option!)
- "Variants OFF, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7" should be available
- They could improve the piano sounds from G6 up. (this sound sounds like the damper pedal is constantly active!
With my previous instruments, these had to be constantly repaired!)
- MIDI editing and creation functions should be there, just like pa4x! (This is very important for my work, but I think for others too!)
- "Kick and Snare Designation" should be available (even MIDI files could have this option!)
- "Variants OFF, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7" should be available
- They could improve the piano sounds from G6 up. (this sound sounds like the damper pedal is constantly active!
With my previous instruments, these had to be constantly repaired!)