61 or 76 key ?

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61 or 76 key ?

Post by machie »

Which might be the best way to go ? I got enough $$ for the 61 key, but the 76 is making the teeth grind.
while playing can the 76 octaves be made up with a hit of the octave button ?
as more expirenced players using the 61 keys ? do you find its not so bad not having the 76 key or does it become like wish i did get the damn thing

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Post by martigan »

machie,

I currently have a Triton Classic 61 key (see below) it was a great starter keyboard for me, I never played before purchasing my Triton. The 88 keys was a little too intimidating and still is, price wise and size. It worked well for me. Now that I am a little more comfortable with playing the extra keys would be nice. So next week I am going to order a 76 key Extreme.

BTW- Yanni uses 76 key Tritons (last I knew). That also helped with my decision.
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Post by Phunky »

Hi Machie,

The way I look at it is that, if you can afford the 88 keys, go for it because of the weighted key action, if not, go for the 61 keys instead.

My reasoning is that, 76 keys action are just the same as 61 keys why pay more just that few extra keys. And it looks a bit wierd to me in the sense that those extra 1/4 octave just make the keyboard looks a bit out of proportion and it wouldn't really help when you try to play some good piano piece which requires some low notes. You still need to use the transpose button to do the trick. So what's the point?

And if you plan to gig with your keyboard alot and you have a small car, the 76 keys would most probably will cause some trouble to fit into the car boot. While the 61 keys will just fit nicely just based on my past experience.

Hope I didn't offend any 76 keys keyboard owners :wink: If I did, I sincerely apologise for my action.
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Post by soulidstate »

I agree with Phunky. Not because I already have a 61-keys.

I use mine only at home for arranging so there's no urgency for me to play across a 76-keys in any given time. 61 is right for my need though an 88 is one that is nice to have. :D
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Post by elfrabo »

The right choice depends on the way you are going to use your keyboard. If you play the piano a lot you will like those extra keys very much..
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Re: 61 or 76 key ?

Post by JohnnyAardvark »

machie wrote:while playing can the 76 octaves be made up with a hit of the octave button ?
Yes, you can configure one of the switches to do this, and is configured to do so for some sounds already.
machie wrote: as more expirenced players using the 61 keys ? do you find its not so bad not having the 76 key or does it become like wish i did get the damn thing
If you really play, the more keys the better. I play piano to a level, including some "Boogie Woogie" / Blues type stuff. Before getting my triton I felt restricted by my 61 Key keyboard. Every once in a while I lacked some bass notes or top end, however, you just work around it (if you play live). Also, 88 weighted keys is something I have been promissing myself for sometime. I find real piano keys (the TE 88's are pretty good) useful for sensitive playing. Major hassle with the 88 is its weight!

If you just record at home and your not an experienced player, 61 is enough. 76 is better if you can afford it.
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Post by dimitris »

Of course 76 keys!!! :D
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Post by TDunbar »

When you been playing awhile, you'll want to eventually make the switch to 88. Your finger strength will build the more you play, and the hollow keys will soon feel like keys on a toy piano. Every time I play a hollow keyed keyboard I feel like I'm going to break it!
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Post by RVNOak »

We have a TE 61. But we had the TS 88 first. The TE 61 was nothing more than a second key for a mor "portable" application and to help us live.

Our phylosophy is simply, "Money is no object when it comes to a quality musical instrument!!" (except when talking about the OASYS. At this point it's just easier to say, "...if we had the money..."). I would save and get a 76 or even an 88.

88 keys are no joke. This is a huge keyboard and requires some level of patience when moving around - especially if your playing a lot of shows!! You'll want to get really good fast so you can have roadies. Having said that, you can't go wrong with it. 76 keys are probably the best all around. 61 should be a augment to your overall design :)
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Post by popcorn »

76 are my choice!

I used to play piano many years ago, but after 15 years beside the synths I finally found 76 decision of Triton my best keys for now!
Sadly, but the heavy action of the real piano now is not convenient to me, except the Steinway which is more light at touch....

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Post by jojo »

Let's not be stupid. I could have afforded the 88-key EASILY, but I chose the 76-key due to weight considerations (I gig with it almost weekly). Yeah, I really like the 88 key, but it's just too big for the places I use it!

For the 61-key people: Why would you WANT fewer keys?? Looking at the 61-key... I feel restricted by it. 76-key is a choice I haven't regretted.

If you're gigging, 76-key gives you the extra keys you want from an 88-key, but isn't so small that you feel restricted when you go for low octaves. It also doesn't have the weight of the 88, so it's really an ideal choice.

Trust me on this one.

Paul Oakenfold also uses a 76-key Extreme, and he is perhaps THE premier "DJ" in the world.

Look carefully! It's a big, bad 76-key!
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As much as I don't like Hilary Duff, you have to admit that Extreme looks awesome in that picture... http://korg.com/sbytes/article.asp?ArtistID=194

Portable, yet not too small. Perfecto.


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Post by dimitris »

I would prefer a 76 real hammer action keyboard in a triton!!! It's easier to carry for a pianist! :D
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Post by tenshi »

I hope we don't get into a full-weighted vs. synth action keys debate again :shock:

Simply put: 88-key piano-weight is perfect for piano stuff but ONLY for piano.

61/76/whatever synth action or semi-weighted is better for drums/trills/speedy playin' in general and still useable for piano.

Try playing speedy drum patterns and super-fast trills and it just won't happen. By the time the keys bounce back, your fingers will have already struck air at least once..

Ok now back on topic:

61-keys vs 76; of course 76!!! The octave-key workaround you mentioned is not always applicable. If you can afford the extra cash go for 76 keys by all means! :)

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Post by vEddY »

I hope we don't get into a full-weighted vs. synth action keys debate again :shock:
Simply put: 88-key piano-weight is perfect for piano stuff but ONLY for piano.
61/76/whatever synth action or semi-weighted is better for drums/trills/speedy playin' in general and still useable for piano.
Try playing speedy drum patterns and super-fast trills and it just won't happen. By the time the keys bounce back, your fingers will have already struck air at least once..
Ok now back on topic:
61-keys vs 76; of course 76!!! The octave-key workaround you mentioned is not always applicable. If you can afford the extra cash go for 76 keys by all means! :)
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We won't but I have to disagree - for the most part anyway. Everything you play is as easy to play as much as you practice. So, aside from playing organ sounds which really are better on either synth action keys or semi-weighted keys, there's more or less nothing you can't do with 88-key synth that you can do with 61/76 key. Just look at Jordan Rudess :lol:

Anyway, the song Jordan does as a Liquid Tension Experiment member ("Paradigm Shift", from "Liquid Tension Experiment CD 1"), is a perfect example. All of those repetitions of the same note are playable with one hand on a 88 note keyboard. You can learn to play that in 3 minutes. Of course, it's much easier if you've played a classical piano, no argue there. If you didn't - most of the time - that's a no-go. It really depends.
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Post by vEddY »

I would prefer a 76 real hammer action keyboard in a triton!!! It's easier to carry for a pianist! :D
Now that's something I've been nagging on for quite awhile now. I would love to see something happen there - with 76 weighted keys in some future Korg products.
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