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Actually, Melodyne editor is the best Audio to Midi program i've seen by far. It does convert polyphonic audio to different layers of midi tracks. It works best with polyphonic materials of the same group of instruments such as String quintet, quartet, Woodwind choir..etc ... Not a perfect science, but even this wasn't possible just a few years ago. Of course if you throw a drum track in the mix, it will confuse the hell out of Melodyne... Just give it a few years and it will do a much better job.

Vocal remover
I watched the Audya demos with great interest - as always those things just do not work well at all but my main questions were
Why would you ever want this feature?
When would you use this feature?
Why not just play the original and become a DJ?
Royalty issues would apply to "voice-removed" recordings.
Can't see the point unless one's own voice is far superior to the original's voice!!

I have actually played around with this (software) and the more of the voice frequencies you remove, the worse the rest sounds.

I hope Korg focus on some real useful features rather than "voice-removing" - what a weird feature for performing - what a weird feature full stop.
Put it in one of the next games for XBox 360 or Wii or maybe it would more suit all those "play-at-home" Tyros owners - not us!!!

Pete

karmathanever wrote: Why would you use this feature?
Why not just play the original and become a DJ?

Why would you want a vocal remover in general?
1) if you're writing a score/midi and the background harmony is been masked by the vocals.
2) If you want to experiment with a different version of the main melody
3) You want to sing a song, but you don't have a midi/karaoke file, or a style to play the song with....if the song is too hard for you to play...If you don't want to worry about playing the song and just want to practice the song to get a feel for it.....bla bla bla

Why not just play the original and become a DJ??? becasue they want to sing! You already have people who use their PA2xpro to playback karaoke files. how's that any different?


For #1 , i already have the tools, so i'm covered. The rest would not apply to me , because i'm not a singer unfortunately. In any case, I would much rather to see korg release a librarian software...The main reason why i'm against it though, is that I know this would turn out to be a lousy addition because of technical difficulties. But If they can overcome the problems some how, i'm all for it.

Vocal remover

A totally irrelevant and un-needed feature!!

Same amount of sampler memory as pa2xpro ??

WAVEXtractor wrote:Vocal Remover:- A totally irrelevant and un-needed feature!!

+1

(Just want "keyboard playing/performing" related features)

I'm afraid Italy has to start planning now for something else. If these specs are true, it doesn't deserve $1. It sounds nothing other than a PA2X PRO with 256 MB RAM in standard state. Instead of naming it an Elite, they name it a PA3X or whatever in a bid to snap up new customers.

They better make keyboard with some real kick ass drums and bass sounds, because this is whats it all about. So far Korg PA keyboards are expensive toys and have the s**t drum sounds which you cant use to play live.

So that people dont have to pay money to those monkeys producing sampled sets and selling them around.

VA76 roland kicks ass any PA keyboard with its drums.

hello korg wake up.

Not everyone wants the same thngs for these keyboards. The drums are fine for me. I want more orchestral stuff...smoother styles especially fills (4 fills) for standards, ballads, movie titles, love songs, 60's Motown, musical theatre, on & on.
The drums on the PA2 are right between the Yamaha T4 and the Ketrons. If drums are the main thing...Ketron may be better.
I want more sounds of quality. Sounds that do't have isues like a lot in the PA do. I play slower music and expect top notch lead sounds. No vocals here.

Not all of us play live, Gigs...I play in my living room for me & family/friends.
Is a Roland VA76 an arranger? Many synths have better drums.

One of my observations on some modern musc is that the drums and distotion guitars are way too much in your face to cover up the fact that the singer sucks.

The only way to see if the new Korg is what each if us want is to PLAY it...then we know. After all sound and features is what counts. Especially content as that is very critical. Korg needs to step up the style availability...as Yamaha is King there. Many folks have gone back to Yamaha because of lack of new styles on a ongoing basis from Korg.

LIsten to this...notice the quality of everything. Notice how the drums, instruments, singing, backups etc are all in good mix.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA0GcXV2njY

Lee

PCM Factory: 256 MB - these are ok - doubles the pa2xpro
PCM User memory: 128 MB expandable to 256 MB - equal to pa2xpro
120 notes of polyphony - Still 120? Equal to pa2xpro and behind every professional arranger... WHAT KORG IS THINKING ????

I don't think this specs are true.... hope not.....

Not many people understand the concept of Sounding Good...and the most
and biggest important thing is not just the ROM samples but it is WHERE DO
THEY COME OUT FROM...its very simple...get 50 gallons of water and try to
get them out of there with a 1/8 of an inch hose...would it work??? NO!
Same thing with sounds, no matter the size of Samples or how greeat they
are it ALL falls down to the converters and outputs which in this case Korg's
suck! There is no mistery behind Roland having great drums and basses...
its simple, its outputs are greatest and that has been tested many times.
So Korg has to stop Squezing more water in the barrell but try to find and
make a better way of getting that water out of there...

Nedim - I agree. the same sample on roland sounds punchier than on korg... They can and they should evolve on this aspect but they cannot disregard to improve on other areas they are good but can be better...

it ALL falls down to the converters and outputs which in this case Korg's
suck! There is no mistery behind Roland having great drums and basses...

SO is it possible to put in better convertors and/or outputs.

a.schemkes wrote:

it ALL falls down to the converters and outputs which in this case Korg's
suck! There is no mistery behind Roland having great drums and basses...

SO is it possible to put in better convertors and/or outputs.

High quality A/D and D/A converters are not cheap. And it all doesn't fall down to them. The quality of original samples is just as important. In the recording industry it's called "GIGO meaning "Garbage in, Garbage Out". Even if you have the most expensive converters, if you have poor samples, that's what you're gonna get.

I will be very happy, if korg will add more fills, for every variation.