Are these true?

[Nor]

PA3x & PA3xpro :


Two versions : 61 and 76 notes (maybe also 88??)
New Design (with Ribbon Control)
Replacement of Pa2X Pro
More PCM, more FXs including new TC Helicon voice Processor, more features
Optional Amplification Bar for both versions (see pictures)
Arranger, Sequencer, Sound, Sampler - Full Editing for every feature - Fully configurable system
New Articulation Features for Sounds (from SV-1)
120 notes of polyphony with new allocation algorithm
Double MP3 player with Transpose, Tempo, Record and Vocal Remove functions included (Pitch shift and Time stretch)
4 Master FX plus 4 insert FX
420 Styles, Guitar Mode 2, additional Fill 3 and Fill 4
New TC Helicon processor with Harmonizer (same feature of the TC-Helicon “VoiceLive 2”
Revised panel layout & interface for optimized workflow


PCM Factory: 256 MB (512 MB 16 bit linear - Double the Pa2X)
PCM memory backup battery for fast system boot
PCM User memory: 128 MB expandable to 256 MB
Motorized Tilted Graphic Touch TFT display (76 keys only)
2 Host and 1 Device USB connectors
Double MP3 Player with Transpose, Tempo ,Record and Vocal Remove functions
Internal Hard Disk
Ribbon control - 9 assign. Sliders - 3 assign. Switches
Dedicated TC Helicon Voice Processor panel controls
Digital Out, XLR Mic In (w/phantom), balanced connections
New design with revised and improved layout
Double Factory PCM memory (new Sounds & Drums)
PCM memory backup battery
New Articulation and new polyphony allocation
Ribbon control and 3 assignable switches
4 additional insert FXs
New TC Helicon Voice Processor (same as “VoiceLive2”)
TFT Display
Sequencer Pre-listen feature
Styles: Fill 3&4 – Guitar Mode 2 – Drum Family Controls
MP3 with Vocal Remove and CDG graphic lyrics


Piano Sound w/String Resonance, Key Off and Pedal On/Off sound (we will use many Sounds from SV-1)
True Guitar Mode for style tracks
TC Helicon Vocal Harmony with dedicated controls
Double MP3 Player and Recorder w/Tempo, Transpose and Vocal Remove.
Motorized Tilt Display
Better keybed for 76 and 61 version available
Fully configurable – Touch Screen Display
Ribbon control – Assignable Sliders & Switches
Full sampling editing - PCM memory backup battery

Pa3X Pro 61 keys: 2,999 Euro

Pa3X Pro 76 keys: 3,199 Euro

Produced in : Italy
Release on : January 2011 (NAMM Show)
Production commences: December 2010

[mrniceneasy]

Hi Nor, all sounds plausible to me. Will be interesting to see if the new 'range' does materialise at Namm. Somehow I think that it will...

[karmathanever]

Did I miss a pre announcement somewhere?

[Sam CA]

MP3 with Vocal Remover?

[miden]

MP3 with Vocal Remover?

A GROSSLY over-rated function. Only really works (and marginal even then) when ALL vocals are panned to centre. But as we all know most tracks have effects and these are, 99.9% of the time, panned to the left,right or both, of centre.

So even if the vocal remover takes out the centre panning, which is how they work, you STILL get the efx vocals in the track.

Not to mention that if any instruments happen to be panned centre (a lot of tracks have drums pretty close to centre), these get removed too.

For me, THIS particular "new feature" would be a waste of time, and Korg would have been better looking at something else.

Maybe allowing Guitar mode to be played live??

Dennis

[Sam CA]

MP3 with Vocal Remover?

A GROSSLY over-rated function. Only really works (and marginal even then) when ALL vocals are panned to centre. But as we all know most tracks have effects and these are, 99.9% of the time, panned to the left,right or both, of centre.

So even if the vocal remover takes out the centre panning, which is how they work, you STILL get the efx vocals in the track.

Not to mention that if any instruments happen to be panned centre (a lot of tracks have drums pretty close to centre), these get removed too.

For me, THIS particular "new feature" would be a waste of time, and Korg would have been better looking at something else.

Maybe allowing Guitar mode to be played live??

Dennis

I know how it works. this technique is been around for a long time. You can easily do that in any DAW.Just import any audio stereo track. Split them to make 2 mono tracks. Pan both of them to the center and flip the phase on one track. I use this all the time, when I write scores or make midi files based on an audio track. Once you tame down the lead vocal, then you can hear the background instruments a lot better depending on how the mix was done. It's only good for those kind of purposes, but not for performance. Some softwares/hardwares try to identify the frequncies in which the vocals are performing..then cut those..etc..but that's no good either. All instruments and vocals share most of those frequencies.
I'm sure some times in the future someone is going to come up with a genius idea, but I'm almost positive that's not going to pop up on Korg's keyboard anytime soon. I'll be very disappointed to see korg has loaded the keyboard with useless feature ignoring all the good stuff that people have been requesting for a long time.

[mrniceneasy]

Did I miss a pre announcement somewhere?

Hi Pete, purely speculation, perhaps I should have said 'Will be interesting to see if a new 'range' does materialise at Namm'

[miden]

I'll be very disappointed to see korg has loaded the keyboard with useless feature ignoring all the good stuff that people have been requesting for a long time.

I 100% agree with you Sam!!

D

[miden]

As for the OP, I hope someone has NOT broken an NDA with this data.

It does look rather complete, and, well, genuine!!

[Sam CA]

Maybe allowing Guitar mode to be played live??

Or possibly be used in the sequencer mode?

[BasariStudios]

People still dont understand ONE thing:
There is NO Vocal Remover!
There is NO Audio to MIDI!

Oh yeah, i forgot...there is, people are gonna start popping up
with names of Cr$p applications now but NONE of them works!

And i hope something like that NEVER sees the light of the day!

[miden]

People still dont understand ONE thing:
There is NO Vocal Remover!
There is NO Audio to MIDI!

Oh yeah, i forgot...there is, people are gonna start popping up
with names of Cr$p applications now but NONE of them works!

And i hope something like that NEVER sees the light of the day!

well DUH!!!!! We ALL know that m8, but there are applications that do sorta kinda work.

Actually in the Audio to Midi it can work okay,... As long as the audio track is a single melody note instrument, like a flute or clarinet or similar. Once it gets past that, they are mostly hopeless.

And yes the vocal removers DO work, but only up to a point, and as I already said not very well also because of reason I already stated. As Sam quite rightly said a similar effect can be achieved with the higher end DAW sequencers. Albeit with not perfect results.

In any case Nedim we are NOT discussing the whys and wherefores of vocal removers/cancellers, and NO-ONE but you mentioned audio to midi..

The whole point was that it is a useless addition to a new release.

Guitar mode live, or as Sam said to be able to be used in the seqencer (even better!!!) would be far FAR more beneficial than silly audio toys liek a vocal remover.

Dennis

[BasariStudios]

I know Denis...and US is few of us while the rest believes there is something
like that...but as far as Audio to MIDI i dont agree with you, yes it might work
on a aingle Audio track but to me Audio is a whole different subject.

As for Guitar Mode, LIVE wont make any sense, i already talked pages why
but in sequencer would be a lovely mode.

[miden]

As for Guitar Mode, LIVE wont make any sense, i already talked pages why
but in sequencer would be a lovely mode.

It would work quite well. I KNOW the Roland G70 guitar mode works very well playing it live...makes nice music for soft ballads etc. and it saves having to ensure correct note voicing when playing the chords

Yes I do hear what you are saying about the whole audio and midi thing. I actually agree that it really does not work, properly although there are others who would believe that it does

Its just one of the reasons why I, and you and Sam too, reckon its a total waste of time and energy on the part of the Korg programmers.

D

[BasariStudios]

thats what it is, instead of something stupid like that waste your resources
on something usefull as an Arranger function not an experiment.