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Aaargh, and I just had my K73 shipped of for repair!!

Praying for a speedy return so I can get my hands on the Austrian monster!

Did anyone notice that the documentation for the upgrade suggests that you have 3mb ram installed, referring to the 1.5.0 upgrade pdf.

But that only states 2mb as maximum ram.


Korg, what's going on here?

wow it is really pricey. Is it my ears or the demos sound really muddy?? I understand that they did a crossfade of different segments and sounds , but sometimes it just sounds messy. Not sure if it is wacky playing or note release or my ears.
Anyway, this is the reason why many people stil use cracked software . These companies are way too greedy.
I will give it 4 months 'til someone upload this library on shared torrents. $140 dollars would be a more fair price IMO.

I honestly do not think $249 is a lot to pay for a full new piano ...Now looking at it from a long term business perspective it would make more sense for it to be free to build the platform and build up some market share but I've got the feeling Korg need to squeeze every cent they can out of their business as soon as they can. But you can't really say that $249 is not reasonable if the piano is good enough comparing it to the competition.

my k88 is on repair now, but i'm really looking forward to this Boesendorfer expansion. The price seems to be fair, considering the amount of work it probably has taken to create a good sampleset of the piano.

So i would gladly pay 249 for a boesendorfer if it comes close to the real thing.

At first blush, it does seem kinda pricey. On the other hand, a new Bosendorfer for $250 seems like the bargain of the century. You don't get the furniture, but at least it's portable. And $250/EXs is cheaper than the first set of EXs that came built in.

So far, though, I've been happy with the Kronos pianos. They were a strong motivator to get the K88 in the first place, and I haven't begun to exploit all they can do. I expect that at some point in the future, I'll try the Bosendorfer demo and probably buy it.

In the meantime, I'm anxious for some new orchestral libraries.

PianoManChuck wrote:I agree the price is hefty at $299... even at the slashed price of $249. On the other hand, a real Bosendorfer Imperial 290 is over $200,000. Granted no sound library can sound like a real Bosendorfer.

I also have a Nord Stage 2 which has the Bosendorfer built in. Everyone else who also has that stage piano rants about how fantastic it sounds... but believe me, it doesn't come close to a real Bosendorfer... everyone whom I've questioned who stated how fabulous it sounds, never actually heard a real Bosendorfer. I've had the luxury of playing a real Bosendorfer Imperial 290. Current technology comes nowhere close. But then again, I'm speaking as a pianist with highly trained ears. To the majority of people, Nord's Bosendorfer, and I'm sure Korg's Bosendorfer will both be fabulous.

I may moan and groan about the price, but as a pianist, getting something that's "close" to a Bosendorfer on the Kronos will eventually get the best of me and I may end up springing for it.

PianoManChuck!.... I play an imperial 290 every week at my church!.....and YOU ARE RIGHT!! Nothing Comes Close!! IMHO without true sympathetic string resonance the Austrian and other piano sample will always be a step behind on the Kronos.

keyboardcook wrote:Did anyone notice that the documentation for the upgrade suggests that you have 3mb ram installed, referring to the 1.5.0 upgrade pdf.

But that only states 2mb as maximum ram.

This can be a little confusing.

From the factory, the Kronos ships with 2GB of physical RAM, of which about 1 GB is used to load the OS and the factory ROM sounds. Therefore from the factory you have approximately 1GB of free RAM to load your own samples or optional EXS libraries.

OS 1.5 allows the Kronos to recognize the installation of an additional 1GB of RAM, making a grand total of 3GB of phyisical RAM. If you have installed that extra 1GB RAM stick (bringing total RAM to 3GB) then you have approximately 2GB of free RAM available to load your own samples or optional EXS libraries.

When the OS 1.5 document mentions "2GB RAM Max" they are referring to the total amount of free RAM available to load user samples and expansions, not the total amount of physical RAM.

As you can see in the note below, EXS12 requires 257 MB of RAM to load and run. If you want to run/load all of the factory pre-load samples plus this library it is recommended you upgrade to 3GB of RAM.



There are two threads on this forum that talk about adding RAM:

Selecting Correct RAM for Korg Kronos Upgrade
http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... hp?t=67647

Korg Kronos RAM Installation Procedure
http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... hp?t=67710

vstkeys wrote:wow it is really pricey. Is it my ears or the demos sound really muddy?? I understand that they did a crossfade of different segments and sounds , but sometimes it just sounds messy. Not sure if it is wacky playing or note release or my ears.
Anyway, this is the reason why many people stil use cracked software . These companies are way too greedy.
I will give it 4 months 'til someone upload this library on shared torrents. $140 dollars would be a more fair price IMO.

their authorization process is not really crackable.... so I believe you are wrong in this response....plus its not that serious....

c'mon man!!!!

vstkeys wrote:I will give it 4 months 'til someone upload this library on shared torrents.

Yeah, good luck with that.

apex wrote:their authorization process is not really crackable...

Every lock has a key. EVERY.

I'll send my K73 in for keybed replacement first, and do the memory expansion. Then I'll think about it. The two SGX-1 piano's in the kronos are already great, but I'll try this one for sure..

249$, plus Ram, plus installation if
you don't want to void your warranty...

No thank you.

Padking

EvilDragon wrote:

apex wrote:their authorization process is not really crackable...

Every lock has a key. EVERY.

The "security by obscurity" is pretty high in this case, though. I mean, who's gonna attempt to "jailbreak" a $3000 hardware synth for this purpose?

@vstkeys: "These companies are way too greedy. ".... I think it's the user who is greedy downloading cracked versions....

Now-a-days... almost all software applications have fully functional demo versions... if you REALLY need them, you won't mind paying for them... The software pays for themselves within a few projects, if you really use them for commercial projects.... if you don't, then you should know music can be very an expensive hobby, if you get too picky....

The Pianos in KRONOS are FINE.. you don't really HAVE to purchase this library...