How to copy Timbres between Combi's?

KK · Post by KK » Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:47 am

The Kronos Editor freeware offers a few functions for that.

danielwolk · Post by **danielwolk** » Sat Oct 22, 2022 8:29 am

Kronos Editor don't have this functions, Midi Quest 12.2.1 working very well!

I upgraded Kronos Editor to MQ 12.2.1 and I'm very happy. A lot of added functionality like copy patches between / inside Combi banks!

voip · Post by **voip** » Sat Oct 22, 2022 10:47 am

Individual Timbres in a Combi are, of course, Programs, so changing the Program in the Combi to the one of interest is part of the process, and this may be sufficient. However, there's a good chance it won't quite sound the same, because the effects used by that Timbre are likely to be different in the two Combis, so these effects will need careful curating, plus, if KARMA is being used, there is the added complexity of managing that.

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michelkeijzers · Post by **michelkeijzers** » Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:00 pm

Since I don't develop PCG Tools anymore and it seems others are not interested I doubt it ever will be implemented.

timg11 · Post by **timg11** » Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:12 pm

@Scott, I was able to complete the Kronos Timbre Copy functionality in Sysex Filer. I use it occasionally in conjunction with PCGtools. There are some rough edges, but the code has been stable since 2016. The handling of MFX, TFX, and Karma data is very limited - the focus is on the Timbre data.

You can download it here

There is a help file also linked that walks through the process. Let me know how it goes...

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Wed Nov 02, 2022 3:37 pm

voip wrote:Individual Timbres in a Combi are, of course, Programs, so changing the Program in the Combi to the one of interest is part of the process, and this may be sufficient. However, there's a good chance it won't quite sound the same, because the effects used by that Timbre are likely to be different in the two Combis, so these effects will need careful curating, plus, if KARMA is being used, there is the added complexity of managing that.

In my case, the reason I wanted to copy a timbre as opposed to simply selecting that same program again is that the timbre is configured EXT/EX2 for an external sound.

timg11 wrote:@Scott, I was able to complete the Kronos Timbre Copy functionality in Sysex Filer. I use it occasionally in conjunction with PCGtools. There are some rough edges, but the code has been stable since 2016. The handling of MFX, TFX, and Karma data is very limited - the focus is on the Timbre data.

You can download it here

Thanks. I don't need it at the moment, but it's good to know the functionality exists.