Demo of C-68 Oboe & Orchestra

[maestrophillips]

Pal,

Here's some screen shots from various libraries.


This is the full Vienna Symphonic Library Solo Strings I DVD ($940). You're looking at the solo violin staccato. See where it says 4 velocity layers?


This is the full Appassionata Strings I DVD ($1020). You're looking at the violin sustain. See where it says 4 velocity layers? Notice the number of samples.


This is the LASS Strings. You're looking at the violin section sustain. It says 3 layers at the top. Below you see four layers but the ppp does not have samples (for whatever reason)


This is the LASS Strings. You're looking at the violin section sordino. It has two layers p and f plus release.


This is the main Trumpet Section Sustain from Project SAM Orchestral Brass Classic. You'll see four velocity layers 0-59, 60-89, 90-112 and 113-127 plus release (RT).

I could go on and on with these. I don't think I found any over four velocity layers.

Finally here's the East West oboe stac. You can clearly hear three velocity layers (advancing 5 MIDI velocity per note)

EW Oboe Stac

Busch.

"PAL,"

I appreciate the screen shots. I do understand what you are displaying in terms of the groupings of the velocity layers, which would equate to four velocity layers. Yes, you are correct there. I think I should have used different terminology since you are missing my point completely.


I will not harp on this any further since I am doing a terrible job of clarifying the main helpful thought that I was trying to convey in the beginning about getting a realistic Oboe sound in a performance.

By the way, the example you post in another comment of yours was very nice. I like it.

[maestrophillips]

I then adjusted the velocities so that each note would stair step up from 1 to 127. I kept the volume and the expression the same. Conclusion: I could hear the change in velocity on EVERY note.

That's how MIDI velocity works. The synth/sample engine increases amplitude with each increase in velocity received. It has nothing to do with sampled velocity layers. A single sample would respond the same way.

Busch.

Thank you for the feedback.

[maestrophillips]

I would guess the Jupiter as well. The vibrato is too strong (I know it maybe fun to play with it like that but it's not realistic unless you're some kind of Kenny G of oboists) and it's too perfect. I assume you can pull back on the vibrato. Still it's a very good tone and it works.

Here's a very quick example using VSL legato played in real-time. If I was going to create the phrase for real I would spend more time with different articulations for realism. But you get to hear the VSL legato, which IMO, is unrivaled. The vibrato in this example is real.

VSL Oboe

Busch.

Nice job. This is very realistic.