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NETWORK1 · Post by **NETWORK1** » Sat Jun 07, 2014 8:04 pm

danatkorg wrote:
NETWORK1 wrote: Found the error messages,....conclusion ?.....There Meaningless .
On the contrary, they are quite specific.

File/Path Not Found: "Meaning: In Disk mode when you used the Open button to open a directory, the path length including the selected directory name exceeded 76 characters."

Solution: use shorter file names and avoid deep directory structures.

File Already Exists: "Meaning: When sampling to the disk, an identically-named file exists in the save-destination.
• Either delete the existing directory or file, or specify a different name.
Meaning: When recording an audio track, an identically- named WAVE file exists in the save-destination on the disk.
• Either delete the existing file, or use the Sequencer P0– Preference page to specify a different name."

Error in writing to medium: This is the one that causes me a bit of concern. First, use the Check Medium command on the internal SSD. File corruption is unlikely due to the use of the journaled ext3 file system, but it's still possible; for instance, shutting down immediately after disk operations should be avoided (as noted in the docs). If this error message persists, I'd recommend backing up all of your files, talking with tech support again, and if they feel it is appropriate, restoring your system from DVD using the "Format and Full Install" option.

Thanx for your reply Dan

Let me address your answers in reverse order.

1. "Format and Full Install" option........iv been thinking about this, will it fix the problem ,shall i do it ?

2. FLAMENCO SUNSET doesn't add up to 76 characters, in fact 76 characters would be this long :

qazwsxedcrfvtgbyhnujmikolploikmnjuyhbvgtrfcdewszaqqazwsxedcrfvtgbyhnujmikolp

3.You cant delete the existing directory, because if you try, you get the message |ERROR IN WRITING TO MEDIUM |

Why is there NO PROBLEM saving to U.S.B ?...it works perfectly everytime.

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Im beginning to understand why KORG do not have their own
OFFICIAL KORG FORUM

They would have to answer questions.

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danatkorg · Post by **danatkorg** » Sat Jun 07, 2014 8:46 pm

NETWORK1 wrote: 1. "Format and Full Install" option........iv been thinking about this, will it fix the problem ,shall i do it ?

As I wrote in my previous message, I suggest that you use the Check Medium command, and if you continue to have the "error in writing" message, contact Korg technical support.

NETWORK1 wrote:2. FLAMENCO SUNSET doesn't add up to 76 characters, in fact 76 characters would be this long :

qazwsxedcrfvtgbyhnujmikolploikmnjuyhbvgtrfcdewszaqqazwsxedcrfvtgbyhnujmikolp

As I wrote in my previous message, it's not just the length of the file name; it's the length of the path, which includes the file name and all enclosing directories.

NETWORK1 wrote:3.You cant delete the existing directory, because if you try, you get the message |ERROR IN WRITING TO MEDIUM |

Why is there NO PROBLEM saving to U.S.B ?...it works perfectly everytime.

As I wrote in my previous message, the "Error in writing" message indicates a problem with the disk - in this case, with the internal SSD. See above for my suggestion as to how to address this.

Pepperpotty · Post by **Pepperpotty** » Sat Jun 07, 2014 9:12 pm

Network1,

Dan has given you some great advice. It would be my advice that you try his suggestions before parting with your Kronos.

However, if you really love the Tyros then maybe the Kronos isn't for you after all.

I hope that you get your issue sorted and maybe you will reconsider keeping your board now that you have realised that 2 of the things you thought were a fault were actually just human error.

Pep.

NETWORK1 · Post by **NETWORK1** » Sat Jun 07, 2014 10:25 pm

Pepperpotty wrote:Network1,

Dan has given you some great advice. It would be my advice that you try his suggestions before parting with your Kronos.

However, if you really love the Tyros then maybe the Kronos isn't for you after all.

I hope that you get your issue sorted and maybe you will reconsider keeping your board
now that you have realised that 2 of the things you thought were a fault were actually just human error.

Pep.

NO im sorry that is NOT CORRECT, and i can not accept that.

and if you choose to BAN ME because im complaining , ..then go ahead.

1. As iv said in previous posts ...none of my song names are 76 characters long .

2. when Dan @ Korg Told me to delete the Files or rename them, he forgot to reply to my original message

3. You cant delete the file or rename it, because it presents another error message,|ERROR IN WRITING TO MEDIUM |

So please dont Negate my problems with the Kronos , just because yours is Error-Free.
Thankyou .

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Bertotti · Post by **Bertotti** » Sat Jun 07, 2014 10:33 pm

Just to clarify, it isn't just the length of the song name but the length of the path so it is a combination of the song name and the name of the folder it is in and whatever folder it is in etc. I always mix this up and think that is the meaning of the path. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

danatkorg · Post by **danatkorg** » Sat Jun 07, 2014 10:34 pm

Bertotti wrote:Just to clarify, it isn't just the length of the song name but the length of the pat so it is a combination of the song name and the name of the folder it is in and whatever folder it is in etc. I always mix this up and think that is the meaning of the path. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

Yes, that's correct: as I wrote above, it's the length of the file name and the names of all enclosing directories.

NETWORK1 · Post by **NETWORK1** » Sat Jun 07, 2014 10:35 pm

danatkorg wrote: As I wrote in my previous message, it's not just the length of the file name;
it's the length of the path, which includes the file name and all enclosing directories.

Could you please tell me ,WHERE in the Korg Manual , it says this ?

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Pepperpotty · Post by **Pepperpotty** » Sat Jun 07, 2014 10:43 pm

NETWORK1 wrote:
Pepperpotty wrote:Network1,

Dan has given you some great advice. It would be my advice that you try his suggestions before parting with your Kronos.

However, if you really love the Tyros then maybe the Kronos isn't for you after all.

I hope that you get your issue sorted and maybe you will reconsider keeping your board
now that you have realised that 2 of the things you thought were a fault were actually just human error.

Pep.

NO im sorry that is NOT CORRECT, and i can not accept that.

and if you choose to BAN ME because im complaining , ..then go ahead.

1. As iv said in previous posts ...none of my song names are 76 characters long .

2. when Dan @ Korg Told me to delete the Files or rename them, he forgot to reply to my original message

3. You cant delete the file or rename it, because it presents another error message,|ERROR IN WRITING TO MEDIUM |

So please dont Negate my problems with the Kronos , just because yours is Error-Free.
Thankyou .

.

I would not ban you because you are complaining. I would ban you because of your attitude. If you took the time to read Dan's posts instead of asking the same questions over and over again then perhaps you would find the answers you were looking for.

So please take a breather and think before you post again. I don't want to ban you but I will if you continue with this attitude.

Francois · Post by **Francois** » Sat Jun 07, 2014 10:46 pm

It says so page 261 of the Operating Guide, version E6.

File/path not found
Meaning: When loading a sample file in Disk mode, the
specified file does not exist. Alternatively, the specified
filename does not exist in the location you selected in a
dialog box for choosing another directory level or other
media.
Meaning: When executing the Delete command in the Disk
mode Utility page, the specified file did not exist.
Meaning: When executing the Copy command in the Disk
mode Utility page, and you used a wild card to specify the
copy file name, the specified file was not found.
Alternatively, the length of the copy source path name
exceeded 76 characters.

Now, if you cannot find this doing a search in the manual to check the meaning of errors, then you're not ready to use something as complex as the Kronos. Sell it and move on, there must be something out there, Tyros 5 perhaps, that is better suited to you.

NETWORK1 · Post by **NETWORK1** » Sat Jun 07, 2014 10:49 pm

Pepperpotty wrote:
NETWORK1 wrote:
Pepperpotty wrote:Network1,

Dan has given you some great advice. It would be my advice that you try his suggestions before parting with your Kronos.

However, if you really love the Tyros then maybe the Kronos isn't for you after all.

I hope that you get your issue sorted and maybe you will reconsider keeping your board
now that you have realised that 2 of the things you thought were a fault were actually just human error.

Pep.

NO im sorry that is NOT CORRECT, and i can not accept that.

and if you choose to BAN ME because im complaining , ..then go ahead.

1. As iv said in previous posts ...none of my song names are 76 characters long .

2. when Dan @ Korg Told me to delete the Files or rename them, he forgot to reply to my original message

3. You cant delete the file or rename it, because it presents another error message,|ERROR IN WRITING TO MEDIUM |

So please dont Negate my problems with the Kronos , just because yours is Error-Free.
Thankyou .

.
I would not ban you because you are complaining. I would ban you because of your attitude. If you took the time to read Dan's posts instead of asking the same questions over and over again then perhaps you would find the answers you were looking for.

So please take a breather and think before you post again. I don't want to ban you but I will if you continue with this attitude.

What Attitude are you referring too please ?

is complaining about error messages , that cant be overcome , classed as an Attitude ?

Bertotti · Post by **Bertotti** » Sat Jun 07, 2014 10:55 pm

I saw it on page 268 of the op guide. Under unable to save file.
"Unable to save file
Meaning: When executing the Disk mode Utility command “Copy,” the copy destination path length exceeded 76 characters.
Meaning: When saving a file in Disk mode, the save destination path exceeded 76 characters.
Meaning: When you executed the Disk mode Utility page menu command “Copy,” the file management data exceeded the size of the management area."

Don't know if I have helped hope I didn't mess you up. I am not sure if it is referenced anywhere else, in all honesty I have not read all the manuals cover to cover I just keep referencing what I need at the time. This particular thing has come up a few times. I hope it helps.

Francois · Post by **Francois** » Sat Jun 07, 2014 10:55 pm

What Attitude are you referring too please ?

The one where you carry on moaning instead of thanking people who take the time to give you answers, which you seem to ignore or not take the time to understand. That attitude!

And I'm not even talking about the rest of your nonsense, "Ferrari with handbreak on", "I hope for your sake , that your Kronos remains STABLE
in the years to come.", "and therefore it begins to sound to FAMILIAR .
Familiarity breeds contempt ?", etc.

Pepperpotty · Post by **Pepperpotty** » Sat Jun 07, 2014 10:58 pm

Exactly what Francois said.

NETWORK1 · Post by **NETWORK1** » Sat Jun 07, 2014 10:58 pm

Bertotti wrote:I saw it on page 268 of the op guide. Under unable to save file.
"Unable to save file
Meaning: When executing the Disk mode Utility command “Copy,” the copy destination path length exceeded 76 characters.
Meaning: When saving a file in Disk mode, the save destination path exceeded 76 characters.
Meaning: When you executed the Disk mode Utility page menu command “Copy,” the file management data exceeded the size of the management area."

Don't know if I have helped hope I didn't mess you up. I am not sure if it is referenced anywhere else, in all honesty I have not read all the manuals cover to cover I just keep referencing what I need at the time. This particular thing has come up a few times. I hope it helps.

Thanx Bertotti

But how is anyone meant know how long a file path is going to be ?

My original song was called| FLAMENCO SUNSET |

How can i pre-calculate the length of the final file name /path?

Bertotti · Post by **Bertotti** » Sat Jun 07, 2014 11:13 pm

I am making an assumption here but where ever you start from look at the name of every folder down it is in and add it together. I think that would work. Or better go to where it will be saved and look at the folder name then slowly step back and see how deep it is. The more you go through the longer the path name. Start a new path and use only one folder? Just thinking out loud. Others will have better workflow for this then I do