Wavestation waveforms and Kronos

jeremykeys · Post by **jeremykeys** » Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:20 am

I've never used my Wavestation EX to it's full potential. I know this for an absolute fact. I'm on my second one now and have been for at least 14 years. I have to admit that I find it crazy that you can't just port over the sounds even via Sysex.

I do know that the Mod-7 will accept old Yamaha DX-7 data.

It kind of sounds a bit unreasonable for the latest and greatest Korg to not be able to handle Wavestation data.

Maybe there is a way. I'm going to have to think about this.

The only thing that I do know is that even if I can't port my sounds over, I can still play them on my EX.

DennyC · Post by **DennyC** » Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:11 pm

I am going to begin recreating a few of my favorite songs that I wrote a few years ago utilizing patches from my WS. I am not good enough to recreate some of the patches from the WS on my Kronos yet. So I do know how some of you feel; maybe it is not completely possible to do so.

cynkh · Post by **cynkh** » Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:55 pm

Do you have some of the patches available in SysEx? I may be able to manually convert a few as an exercise... Do you use any expansion cards for your patches or are they all stock waves?

Cheers!

DennyC wrote:I am going to begin recreating a few of my favorite songs that I wrote a few years ago utilizing patches from my WS. I am not good enough to recreate some of the patches from the WS on my Kronos yet. So I do know how some of you feel; maybe it is not completely possible to do so.

jeremykeys · Post by **jeremykeys** » Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:31 pm

To make a sys/ex file you just do a data dump onto anything that will store midi data. I use my old Yamaha QX-3 sequencer.

cynkh · Post by **cynkh** » Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:44 pm

And since we're all working with Kronoses here it might be that much easier to dump to the Kronos and copy via USB.

jeremykeys wrote:To make a sys/ex file you just do a data dump onto anything that will store midi data. I use my old Yamaha QX-3 sequencer.

jeremykeys · Post by **jeremykeys** » Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:01 pm

Maybe if Danatkorg see's this he can tell us if it will work. I have to say I kind pf doubt it. But then again. Who knows?

Cpilot · Post by **Cpilot** » Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:59 pm

I've dumped out the wave sequences form the Kronos but I get a bunch of errors. For instance, the multisample number seems to be losing a bit so instead of getting 49E(hex) I get 41E. Also I sometimes get an extra byte in the number. This happened in the old OS and in 2.0.6 though the format changed considerably between the two. I get the same problems with different hardware and different computers, and using MIDI or USB, so I don't think it's me. Incidentally, the last time I mentioned bugs in the dump I got jumped all over, including a nasty email from a certain Korg employee, so I've been reluctant to post lately.

jeremykeys · Post by **jeremykeys** » Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:13 am

Cpilot wrote:I've dumped out the wave sequences form the Kronos but I get a bunch of errors. For instance, the multisample number seems to be losing a bit so instead of getting 49E(hex) I get 41E. Also I sometimes get an extra byte in the number. This happened in the old OS and in 2.0.6 though the format changed considerably between the two. I get the same problems with different hardware and different computers, and using MIDI or USB, so I don't think it's me. Incidentally, the last time I mentioned bugs in the dump I got jumped all over, including a nasty email from a certain Korg employee, so I've been reluctant to post lately.

I can completely understand your apprehension.
I'd feel the same way myself.

michelkeijzers · Post by **michelkeijzers** » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:25 am

Cpilot wrote:. This happened in the old OS and in 2.0.6 though the format changed considerably between the two.

There are indeed a lot of changes between 1.5/1.6 and 2.x. The reason for this is the increase of the program banks U-AA to U-GG, and also the increase of the possible wave sequences and multisamples.

I will not go into details but the implementation in 2.x is a lot cleaner than the 1.5/1.6.

The sysex format is in no way guaranteed to be backwards compatible, neither is the PCG file format.