Move out Kronos x---TYROS 5 movin IN

NETWORK1 · Post by **NETWORK1** » Wed Jun 11, 2014 6:02 pm

SanderXpander wrote: On the Kronos? No, not really, that's why IT'S NOT AN ARRANGER KEYBOARD.

You can not have Auto-accompaniment on the Kronos ,without using karma?
Auto-accompaniment,is a form of ARRANGING, but on the kronos it has Limitations and restrictions, compared to the T5.

thats the point i was trying to make.

But if the Karma Auto-Accompaniment wasn't so restricted and limited, it might well fall into the Category of | Arranger-Keyboard |

but its not there yet.

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SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Wed Jun 11, 2014 6:24 pm

No that is the point WE are trying to make. There are fundamental differences between an arranger keyboard and a synthesizer workstation. The Kronos absolutely kills the Tyros for some purposes, the Tyros absolutely kills the Kronos for others. You should have bought an arranger keyboard right away. The Kronos is not a bad board, it is simply a bad arranger keyboard because it wasn't developed to be one. That's like saying a Minimoog is a bad piano. Well yeah, but a piano is a bad Minimoog too.

jimknopf · Post by **jimknopf** » Wed Jun 11, 2014 6:49 pm

Network1,

for my taste you really meanwhile have used up all the good willed help and patience of users and Korg staff in this forum.

I think after all this uttertly redundant stuff you have been posting in this thread, with lots of missing ability or will to understand what people try to tell you, and with endless video links hyping the Tyros, as if it could ever be a serious Kronos replacement for any of us - which it is not remotely - you just keep on resisting to get two tiny and easy to understand informations into your head:

a) You bought the wrong keyboard, if you like working with a Tyros! And that has been exclusively your own fault, without any reason making sense, and not that of anyody else or any company.
Kronos and Tyros are two keyboards for completely different purposes, and Karma was never ever intended or advertised as something making an arranger keyboard of the Kronos. That's BASIC, easily available information for anyone getiing information about the Kronos or reading this forum, and you finally should be able to get the news, like anybody else.

b) What you wrongly called "software glitches" on your Kronos, just seems to be a technical SSD repair or replacement matter. You can either have the problem checked and solved or keep on talking nonsense about it. Wouldn't it make sense to get it straight finally and get your Kronos repaired, instead of talking about non-extisting "software-glitches"?

And finally: this is a Kronos forum. If anyone of us would ever be interested in a Tyros (which will only rarely happen), we will visit the appropriate pages. No need to keep on flooding us with these silly Tyros videos not really related to what we do on our Kronos.

Sorry, but after several thread pages of redundand refusal to understand, I think you got all the answers you need - and the very last thing I will ever need is even more information about a Tyros in a Kronos forum!

NETWORK1 · Post by **NETWORK1** » Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:19 pm

jimknopf wrote:

I think after all this utterly redundant stuff you have been posting in this thread,

Is that an Attitude ?......have i not been answering questions put to me?

arn't videos a better way to explain jargon ?

jimknopf wrote: or will to understand what people try to tell you,

Dan at Korg may mean well, but he gave the WRONG INFORMATION concerning file/path names ,
did he not ?

so dont tell me i havnt the will to understand, what people are telling me.

regarding this topic , Your a approval is neither required , or Desired .

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BobTheDog · Post by **BobTheDog** » Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:28 pm

Yawn.

NETWORK1 · Post by **NETWORK1** » Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:33 pm

BobTheDog wrote:Yawn.

if your bored, try and help others, like this guy

With your 808 Posts , im sure youll be able to be of some use.

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... hp?t=90922

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SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:41 pm

NETWORK1 wrote:
jimknopf wrote:

I think after all this utterly redundant stuff you have been posting in this thread,
Is that an Attitude ?......have i not been answering questions put to me?

arn't videos a better way to explain jargon ?

jimknopf wrote: or will to understand what people try to tell you,
Dan at Korg may mean well, but he gave the WRONG INFORMATION concerning file/path names ,
did he not ?

so dont tell me i havnt the will to understand, what people are telling me.

regarding this topic , Your a approval is neither required , or Desired .

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He didn't give the wrong information at all, you just refused to correctly read what he wrote (or what's in the manual).

jimknopf · Post by **jimknopf** » Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:48 pm

Networlk 1,

Dan told you the exact right thing about your main problem (SSD), and he also was completely right about character path length on your SSD, as described in the manual.

I guess you refused answering (and FINALLY getting) my two main points a) and b) for good reassons.

And meanwhile probably everyone here has understood that you rather are trying to insist no matter what, rather than getting your problem solved, or getting your (hard to understand) buy of the wrong keyboard for your purposes corrected.

From my view you just should stop bothering this forum if you keep on refusing to learn the main points, which users and staff have offered you, with a lot of patience and readiness to help.

NETWORK1 · Post by **NETWORK1** » Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:49 pm

SanderXpander wrote: He didn't give the wrong information at all, you just refused to correctly read what he wrote (or what's in the manual).

SanderXpander wrote:It's easy to see that a filename that long will give problems because the Kronos creates a subdirectory with the multisample and separate samples upon saving. A 52 character initial sample name will lead to a path more than a hundred characters even if you save it in the root.

Thats not the case , as the screen captures say otherwise.

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:55 pm

NETWORK1 wrote:

Found the error messages,....conclusion ?.....There Meaningless .

Danatkorg wrote:
On the contrary, they are quite specific.

File/Path Not Found: "Meaning: In Disk mode when you used the Open button to open a directory, the path length including the selected directory name exceeded 76 characters."

Solution: use shorter file names and avoid deep directory structures.

File Already Exists: "Meaning: When sampling to the disk, an identically-named file exists in the save-destination.
• Either delete the existing directory or file, or specify a different name.
Meaning: When recording an audio track, an identically- named WAVE file exists in the save-destination on the disk.
• Either delete the existing file, or use the Sequencer P0– Preference page to specify a different name."

Error in writing to medium: This is the one that causes me a bit of concern. First, use the Check Medium command on the internal SSD. File corruption is unlikely due to the use of the journaled ext3 file system, but it's still possible; for instance, shutting down immediately after disk operations should be avoided (as noted in the docs). If this error message persists, I'd recommend backing up all of your files, talking with tech support again, and if they feel it is appropriate, restoring your system from DVD using the "Format and Full Install" option.
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danmusician · Post by **danmusician** » Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:12 pm

Since the introduction of the Kronos, this forum has been plagued by a small number users who have had - for one reason or another - a negative experience with their keyboard and decided to abandon the Kronos. These same users are not content just to leave their Kronos experience behind, but seem intent on hanging around this board trying to make sure everyone else has a bitter Kronos experience as well. I really can't get my brain around that. Life's much too short, please move on.

To the OP, enjoy your Yamaha keyboard. It's clearly the device you were looking for. I think I speak for most of us when I say that we wish you the best with it. In the end, it's about the music, not the instrument.

To Pepperpotty or Sharp, can we please pronounce this horse thoroughly dead and beaten, lock it up and move on?

Francois · Post by **Francois** » Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:51 pm

Motion seconded!

Time to lock this thread I think.

william olson · Post by **william olson** » Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:51 am

Network1 if your still having problems with the Kronos contact UCanDream.

karmathanever · Post by **karmathanever** » Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:57 am

Regarding Karma........is there another way to arrange auto-accompaniment, without it ?

Very, very simple - buy an arranger keyboard.
You seem to be totally missing the point that the Kronos is NOT an arranger keyboard or even pretends to be.
"KARMA" does NOT equal "ARRANGER" - totally totally different.

All your "Kronos" concerns have been answered and explained.

I think I give up now....

Topic locked.....