Split and sustain a pad/ drone

1Wired · Post by **1Wired** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 6:01 pm

Could one latch a sound in Kronos , endless sustain ?, latch mode so a drone atmosphere sound can be on ?

voip · Post by **voip** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 6:28 pm

Folded cardboard jammed between the keys is the "classic" way to get one note or several notes to sustain. Robert Rich has used the technique a lot.

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fcoulter · Post by **fcoulter** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 6:33 pm

Keith Emerson used knives.

voip · Post by **voip** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 7:24 pm

The Korg nanoPAD2 is another possible way to go, and is not hugely expensive. If the X-Y pad is used to play a note, the nanoPAD2's "hold" function sustains the last note played on the X-Y pad. It doesn't sustain notes sounded when the nanoPAD2 pads are played, nor when the main keyboard is played.

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psionic311 · Post by **psionic311** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:40 pm

Yes. For a solo program, click the Hold button to sustain the notes you press. It's under the Key Zone section with the graphic of the 2 keyboards:

Common (lower tab) => Program/Basic (upper tab) => Key Zone section => Hold

For sustaining a program/timbre from within a Combi, touch to select the timbre's slider, then from the upper right drop-down, choose Edit Program. This brings you to that timbre's program location, where you do the same steps in bold above for a sustained sound while you noodle around with the other timbre's in that project.

I'm sure there are other ways, but this works as a quick fix.

amit · Post by **amit** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:36 am

The korg nanokey studio also works quite well.
Through the software you can make the sustain button a toggle (cc 64).
Here's another trick using foot switch : use the foot switch as sostuneto.
Press the key, use the switch and the note gets held, works with chords too.

SeedyLee · Post by **SeedyLee** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:07 am

psionic311 wrote:Yes. For a solo program, click the Hold button to sustain the notes you press. It's under the Key Zone section with the graphic of the 2 keyboards:

Common (lower tab) => Program/Basic (upper tab) => Key Zone section => Hold

For sustaining a program/timbre from within a Combi, touch to select the timbre's slider, then from the upper right drop-down, choose Edit Program. This brings you to that timbre's program location, where you do the same steps in bold above for a sustained sound while you noodle around with the other timbre's in that project.

I'm sure there are other ways, but this works as a quick fix.

Thanks, I learned something new today!

StephenKay · Post by **StephenKay** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:45 am

You can also have KARMA automatically sustain a sound for you, such that each new chord played cuts of the previous chord, without KARMA doing anything else fancy. It also allows more control than some of these other methods.

http://www.karma-lab.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9890

This tutorial was written for the OASYS. It applies equally to the Kronos, just use the same GE, with the same number...

psionic311 · Post by **psionic311** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:12 am

StephenKay wrote:You can also have KARMA automatically sustain a sound for you, such that each new chord played cuts of the previous chord, without KARMA doing anything else fancy. It also allows more control than some of these other methods.

http://www.karma-lab.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9890

This tutorial was written for the OASYS. It applies equally to the Kronos, just use the same GE, with the same number...

Karma GE 2045 RT Real-Time Bend is a great GE with different uses:

1) auto bend, like for pedal steel guitar, based on velocity if you want
2) auto harmony, with selectable pitch spread and harmony brought in by velocity
3) auto sustain, which automatically cuts off upon playing the next chord

Thanks again for this hidden gem!

SeedyLee · Post by **SeedyLee** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:01 am

Stephen and Psionic,

How would you recommend users become familiar with some of the possible uses of various GEs? There's not really much about the name "GE 2045 RT Real-Time Bend" that suggests "use this for sustaining chords".

geoelectro · Post by **geoelectro** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 12:32 pm

Even another way is using Tone Adjust. In Combi mode you can set Tone Adjust for the timber you want to hold and assign the hold function to one of the buttons on your panel. You can press it to start "hold" and the sound will hold until you press it again to stop it. It can be programmed "on" in the combi so the hold will work when the Combi is first selected. The "Tone Adjust" page must be active for that timber to turn it on or off. That too can be programmed in the Combi.

Geo

psionic311 · Post by **psionic311** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:24 pm

SeedyLee wrote:Stephen and Psionic,

How would you recommend users become familiar with some of the possible uses of various GEs? There's not really much about the name "GE 2045 RT Real-Time Bend" that suggests "use this for sustaining chords".

To tell you the truth, I'm not really good with Karma yet. It's just that 2 specific use cases that are useful to me are able to be done with that GE. They're described in these links:

auto sustain:
http://www.karma-lab.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9890

auto harmony:
https://www.karma-lab.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20254

mikelees · Post by **mikelees** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 6:29 am

I play drones live with Kronos a lot. I've researched the various ways of doing this. There is a Karma EG that holds pads - but eventually has small interruptions when it retriggers a note.

The best way I found was using the Korg Nanopad. If you connect it to a PC or Mac with the Korg software, you can configure each pad in either momentary or toggle mode.

With the pads set in toggle mode, you hit the pad once to turn a drone note or chord on, then again to turn it off - really easy when using it live! The really cool bit is that toggle mode still works on pads 1-8 which are the Kronos defined chord pads.

What I normally do is create a combi with the drone sound on a particular Midi channel (say channel 3). In the pads tab for that combi, I assign the drone notes or chords to one or more pads, and set the pads to channel 3. With the Nanopad I can then trigger drones on and off with the pads in toggle mode.

StephenKay · Post by **StephenKay** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 4:15 am

mikelees wrote:I play drones live with Kronos a lot. I've researched the various ways of doing this. There is a Karma EG that holds pads - but eventually has small interruptions when it retriggers a note.

You are referring to another way that uses a GE to trigger a note every 4 beats, or 8 beats, or something like that. If you use the method I linked to above, that will never happen.